The Reasons Why Calzaghe never faced a top fighter.

Troll thread.

 

The one thing that always bothered me about Calzaghe was that him and his father were so determined to NEVER fight pavlik.

he may have beaten Pavlik but I think the fact that he never faced him, after all the crap and anger his father had for him, is an asterix against his record......at least for me it is! if they were so confident that Joe could beat him, then go for the payday and prove it! Fighting your last two fights against guys that are way past their prime (and gettin dropped by both of them) did nothing to impress me.

 

Let's be fair, the Pavlik fight was only really talked about after Calzaghe-Hopkins, i.e. the last six months before his retirement. Plus, what does it say about Pavlik if that guy who was "way past his prime" beat him like a red headed stepchild for 12 rounds?

 

a ancient Trinidad, and a green hopkins and james toney, you give roy jones credit for his heavyweight feat, fighting john ruiz? where is holyfield and lewis all the other great heavy's on his record? Roy jones has built his career outclassing opponents thats why he was number 1 for his skill, P4P is just who is the best fighter in the world that doesnt mean that roy jones fought all the best fighters in there weight class, im asking you for Roy Jones's best wins! and compare them to hopkins

 

You mean Jones circa 1995? Or Hopkins circa 2001? Remind me who was Kessler?? I mean seriously Robin Reid? Have you even seen that fight?

 

Because no one knew who Joe was.... He was busy defending the WBO in comfort at home.

 

jeez spell calzaghe right before you critise him ey, Calzaghe can punch, anybody who cant punch doesnt make a world champion, you dont knock many people out just by slapping them, how do you meassure how good a fighter is? , becuase he doesnt want to have a awkward rematch bewteen hopkins which was crap anyway, how do you think calzaghe can beat pavlik? when you say he cant punch?

 

Classically Joe cant punch. He's technique although flawed and horrid to watch was extremely effective. Joe certainly carried power in he's mitts but the facts remain from a purist standpoint Joe would have fared better in my opinion with a trainer who could have harnessed he's talents even better than the limited techniques that he's father used.

 

[quote="TKO";3810859]Let's be fair, the Pavlik fight was only really talked about after Calzaghe-Hopkins, i.e. the last six months before his retirement. Plus, what does it say about Pavlik if that guy who was "way past his prime" beat him like a red headed stepchild for 12 rounds?[/quote]

I agree, Hopkins had Pavliks number and I am in no way saying that Kelly is a Great fighter....or that Hopkins isnt great....but Enzo went ballistic any time Pavliks name was mentioned.....and Hopkins hadnt shown anyone the blueprint for beating Pavlik yet. I also think that Pavliks style would cause Joe alot of problems.
AND I think Hopkins beat Joe in a close decision. One thing Kelly Pavlik is, is a great finisher and if he had knocked Joe down in the 1st round I think it would have been over with.

Hopkins also didnt have his trainer for that fight (if I remember he had a stroke)

There were alot of other fights Joe could have taken instead of Hopkins or Jones, that would have been more challenging.

 

again??????????????

 

but those technqiues worked though, he still won evreyfight he has been in so why fix what aint broken, I guess we wont find out how he would of of harnessed if he was with somebody else, but still TBH i think joe carried alot of his dads flaws in the ring, but seriously joe is so naturally good that his ring savy won many of the fights he has been in thats including the kessler, hopkins and jones fight, Calzaghe has been a victim of bad hands, but can you honestly tell me that you can beat roy jones and bernard hopkins with slaps? many people on here think joe is this joke up from europe with fast slappy hands, but really dont understand on how good he is when he is in the ring