The renaissance of Japanese professional boxing

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BigBone, Dec 6, 2010.


  1. nip102

    nip102 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    only problem is they don't unfiy Nishioka/Lee would be for the ring belt but it ain't going to happen
     
  2. royalt0208

    royalt0208 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Love the Japanese Model if it where to be implemented accross the World Boxing would be much better off. The only black mark is that they are against unifying titles for some strange reason and they don't travel outside Japan. Otherwise it is absolutely brilliant.
     
  3. brickfists

    brickfists The Nonpareil Full Member

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    excellent post one of the few i enjoyed reading
     
  4. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    Nishioka Lee would be epic.
     
  5. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mike Hancho (RicardoTubbs220) made two very nice HD highlights of Hasegawa and Nishioka, check them out!

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHea91AtWuM[/ame]

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dfxPTRhJ-4[/ame]


    It's interesting BTW that just like Cubans, the Japanese have a lot of lefties on top, Nishioka, Ao, Hasegawa and Koki Kameda all fight out of the southpaw stance. Ao is a good fighter too and had a nice little clash with Vitali Tajbert the other day. Too bad it's not on youtube.
     
  6. Theologicaldisc

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  7. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Shiiiiit, Uchiyama-Solis is postponed, likely to late Jan/early Feb. Solis is ill.
     
  8. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All 3 Kameda brothers won yesterday, Tomoki blew away his overmatched opponent, Daiki recieved a debatable decision in his title defense and Koki Kameda captured his 3rd world title in as many divisions. Koki picked up the WBA BW belt that became vacant when the awful WBA decided to promote the underrated Anselmo Moreno to super champ. The infamous boxer took on former two-time SFlyW champ Alexander Munoz and won the fight by UD, though he came close to stop the Venezuelan in the 12th as he was able to drop Munoz and hurt him later too. There could be an argument about the title's legitimacy, but the WBA crowned Japan's 7th world champion nontheless.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWepQuPKNQM[/ame]


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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeFGRZLPD40[/ame]
     
  9. SportsLeader

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    Will be interesting to see how Kameda fits into the current ****-hot bantamweight mix. With fighters like Donaire, Montiel, Agbeko, Perez, Mares, Darchinyan at the core of the division and Cordoba, Poonsawat involved aswell, you could certainly argue that Bantamweight is the best weight in the whole of boxing. As I said, it will be interesting to see how Koki fits in. Can he compete in the division at the highest level? How will he fair against the divisions top contenders? His move into the division is certainly a good thing, as this division seems to get better and better, and fights at this weight will certainly be tougher for Koki than at Fly and Super Fly. Personally I don't think he can compete with the Donaire's, Montiels and Agbeko's of the division, but his move is certainly interesting, and it does the weight class no harm.
     
  10. di tullio

    di tullio Guest

    I used to ignore the lower weight divisions until I finally got over the idea of Southpaw vs. Southpaw. Martinez-Williams cured my phobia.
     
  11. Larryboys

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    It's interesting how MMA was popular in Japan all through the 90's and most of this decade but has really petered out there while boxing has picked up, and the complete opposite has happened in America.
     
  12. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's because the Jap boxing scene is not full of greedy moneymen only looking for their own interest and cherrypicking fighters only in for the money. They do it right. Only recognize the WBA and WBC as world titles so there's no ABC chaos, boxers get enough media attention professional and personal wise (respectful way, not tabloid style) and they are not only mostly exciting fighters, but respectful persons, credit to the sport (except for the controversial Kamedas), they fight anyone and travel if necessary, and promoters not just make the TV deal and cut their share off the network fee, but they put a lot of effort to pack the arenas. There's also no overhyping prospects and most come through the packed local scene with one of multiple losses (as there's little amateur background), so no hysteria around boxing records either. They don't do everything right of course and debated outcomes happen every now and then, but what they do right outweighs what they do wrong multiple times, and it's the complete opposite in the US. MMA only ride the waves of this situation in America, the question is if it's too late to get the momentum back - and if there's anyone looking for the sport's interest.
     
  13. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    It's amazing how Japanese boxing is isolated from the rest of the boxing world. The regular boxing fan here just doesnt understand how significant Japanese boxing is just because many of the fighters dont leave the country for big fights but instead they have the big fights come to them.

    Koki Kameda is a very colorful character and has significantly accomplished a lot at such a young age but he is sadly only recognized here as a joke because of some Pokemon poster here that only says his name. Can you imagine if someone like Kermit Cintron screamed out loud (Koki style) and proceeds to knock down his opponent? Everyone at ESB would be all over his nutsack again and calling him a badass.

    Long are the days of Fighting Harada but Japanese fighters still got some major upcoming players in the sport. People want something new and different. If only an elite Welterweight/Middleweight type Japanese fighter could emerge you'll have a worldwide superstar in the making. .
     
  14. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A little update of schedule:

    Uchiyama now takes on Jorge Solis replacement Takashi Miura and Li Lee fights Shimoda on Jan 31. Nobuo Nashiro tries to get a SFlyW title vs. Tomas Rojas in a possible barn-burner on Feb 5., while 6-0 (!) Kazuto Ioka challenges 35-0-1 Oleydong Sithsamerchai of Thailand for the WBC MinW title on Feb 11.

    Also, expect Takahiro Ao vs. Mexican TBA (I'd guess Solis or Gutierrez) and Hozumi Hasegawa vs. Jhonny Gonzalez somewhere in Mexico in the 1st 4 months of 2011.
     
  15. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Shimoda upsets Li Lee in war, Uchiyama wins 'Takashi fight' fight in punchfest!

    THAT'S how you start the new year - just when you thought the kick-off is all disappointment, a dramatic, high quality, all-out double-header involving 4 Japanese warriors and 5 knockdowns said NOW let 2011 begin - and it did. So just before Junuary went out we already had a FOTY and an upset of the year candidate.

    Call it a double co-incidence, but after prodicing my upset ot the year in 2010 as Ryol Li Lee beet #1 SBW Poonsawat by UD, he himself was upset by UD by Akifumi Shimoda in a war that produced 4 knockdowns and an excitement of 4 good fights. Great slugfest and with Shimoda the WBA SBW title remains in Japan continuing the country's recent renessaince.

    Double coincidence because this fight copied last years events as right after JC Salgado shocked J Linares in 2009's upset of the year, Takashi Uchiyama quickly put him away January 2010, and he hasn't stopped ever since. But the WBA SFW champion had his hands full in a punchfest vs. fellow Takashi Miura. Uchiyama, controlling the fight early with a power jab but being bothered with an accidental headbutt, went down hard by a left in R3, only to come back firing in the next rounds as both Takashis started to mark up due to the clash of heads and fists. Champ Takashi's dominance only became clear after R6 as Challenger Takashi's right eye started to close and Uchiyama just couldn't miss with the head-snapping jab anymore. The fight was stopped after R8 by the ref, TKO win for the champion.

    Check out both fights, they made 2011's lackluster start look exciting!

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFvVI-087Sk[/ame]


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