The rest of the middleweight division...

Yeah, he should do that... I think that Kessler would eagerly accept.

 

Abraham poses a real threat, but other than that no serious challengers IMO. You have Duddy who is good but I doubt will ever be great. Miranda is moving up to 168 and isn't special. Green could maybe boil down to 160 but his chin wont hold up. I have a feeling Andy Lee might be pretty damn good but he is too green right now. Also Sturm and Karmazin are the only other fighters I would say might give the top 5 some trouble.

 

Don't forget Winky...It is POSSIBLE that he could make Pavlik look bad and avoid the big shot for 12 rounds.

 

I would love to see kelly pavlik Arthur abraham. That would be an amazing fight. because once again you have two guys that are very good technicians but are not hard to find.

AA is the strongest guy in the division and after seeing Taylor nearly floor pavlik in the second i might give the edge to AA. But if it went deep he would gas and take a world class ass beating.

It would be a great fight and someone would get KTFO!

 

A good middleweight prospect is Andy Lee, guy is extremely active as well (6 fights last year, probably 8 by the end of this one), I suspect he'll be the future of middleweight (or supermiddleweight) in 2-3 years... southpaw Gerald Mccllelland in the making.

 

AA is getting very overrated now, I mean, he just KO´d much smaller guys (beside of the skinny bum Ikeke), Pavlik showed against Miranda and Taylor his power, 2 guys with very good chins. AA´s bad workrate and pace would cost him much against a fighter like Kelly, who throws so many punches per round, IMO he would KO AA in the midrounds...

 

AA isn't great (but he does fight real middleweights, Miranda, Eastman, Ghevor, etc), but Pavlik is extremely overrated at this point as well, analysed thing a bit earlier.

 

Of course he fought real MW´s, I meant with my comment, that his power is getting overrated. KOing fighters like Gevor, Demers, Parada, etc. isn´t that impressive. With his best opponents so far, he always went the distance (although fighters like S. Taylor, Jantuah, etc. were LMW´s). With Eastman, Miranda, Jantuah, etc. he always went the distance. Of course he has serious one-punch-power, but let´s seeing at first him KOing a quality fighter like Miranda or Taylor before saying he would KO Kelly...

 

Watching the Miranda fight I felt he was well on his way to soundly beating, possibly stopping Miranda before the injury. Even after that he hurt Miranda a few times, it's clear he's a puncher though, it's visible with his good form. Pavlik isn't a difficult defensive target so landing power punches/countering shots shouldn't be extremely difficult for reasons I already mentioned, and i'm very confident of AA's power relative to Taylors'. I haven't seen all those fights but, the S.Taylor fight is a bad example since Taylor ran all night.

 

Mhmm, AA against Miranda, well it started like always, AA gets later normally worse because of his mediocre/ bad stamina, even a healthy AA wouldn´t have finished Miranda. I mean, when he himself and his managment would be also so sure like his fans, why didn´t they immediately make plans for a rematch? Like I wrote, IMO AA has even p4p one of the best one-punchs-shots, but with his workrate/ pace and his stamina I don´t see many chances against Pavlik. Against Kelly he couldn´t get so many shots like usually, otherwise he would brutally get KO´d...

 

Pavlik would beat Abraham and likely by KO.

If Miranda found that jaw with his wild right hand Pavlik would no doubt find it again and again until Abraham had enough.

 

Brutally KO'ed seems extraordinarily unlikely (even if he was to have stamina issues late, he protects himself extremely well when he wants to), AA is tough if nothing else, tougher than Pavlik atleast. It's clear you don't like AA though, otherwise why would you make an extremely weak point about an immediate rematch after such a serious injury? Miranda went off and did other things in the meantime, he didn't wait up for AA (which was the right thing to do, even if things didn't go to plan).

A lot of AA opponents have been orthodox boxers with clean upright styles, plenty of foot movement, etc. Pavlik comes forward with pressure, plants his feet a lot, has volume and power but like I already said, his attack makes his defence leaky, and AA counters well, I suspect he'll have more opportunities than usual to find a good counter. Also like I said before it's unlikely Pavliks offence will brutally stop AA, he telegraphs too many punches, and AA will find those a lot easier to catch on his guard, than say for example Taylors' quicker hands and combinations.

 

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I don´t understand some of you guys, when I normally criticize someone, doesn´t automatically mean that I don´t like him. It´s the difference, I like him, because he isn´t a fighter who just runs away and gets the decision, he´s a real exciting fighter with one-punch-power, that´s a kind of fighter which´s not so often. I just feel that he´s getting overrated a bit, and that Pavlik would beat him, nothing more, nothing less...

 

I'm just getting tired of really shallow responses like 'this guy would get brutally KO'ed' or 'such and such a fighter is euro-trash' when I put a lot of effort into analysing fighters or a fight, it's extremely annoying. Probably projecting that onto you, I apologise :good