The rest of the middleweight division...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by CzarKyle, Sep 30, 2007.


  1. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    :good

    Perhaps I wrote it a bit silly too. I meant, when he fights with a guard like in his last fights than I think he gets brutally KO´d, BECAUSE he has such an iron chin. If he would be shaky, Pavlik KO´s him in the first rounds, but so, he would get a beating, get my point?
     
  2. Dekkers

    Dekkers Team Bergeron Full Member

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    Of course Luigi, my own feelings on the fight are that Pavlik will likely be ahead on the cards (due to workrate) but will eat quite a few hard counters throughout and eventually be stopped in the middle rounds. I don't think Abraham will win a decision, and if he becomes defensive I think he'll be extremely difficult to stop (though much easier to outwork). :good
     
  3. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    Exactly! Don´t worry, I´m not a kind of the posters, who hype someone that much suddenly after a big win or so... :lol:
     
  4. Dekkers

    Dekkers Team Bergeron Full Member

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    Or trash them when they lose, I feel sorry for Taylor, he fought very well (best fight in a long time) but gets no credit at all. My opinion of Taylor went UP after this fight.
     
  5. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    I also don´t understand that! I mean, he fought really good, his downfall was that he later in the midrounds wanted to brawl too much, that´s why he lost. But it´s really laughable how some little kiddies here react... :bart
     
  6. Dekkers

    Dekkers Team Bergeron Full Member

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    I really thought Taylor would get some respect, a lot of the people picking Pavlik were practically saying he'd dominate and stop Taylor, who'd be too afraid of his pressure to fire back.

    It's like the 7th round is the only round that happenned. What about the rest of the fight? Jermaine took some good shots, fought back when attacked and on the ropes, and had a great second round in a very competitive fight. I thought they'd have gained a bit more respect for Taylor when they had their hearts in their mouths in that second round... I know I did.
     
  7. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    They´re stupid, with the verbal attacks ("Taylor´s a bum, he´s a frau, I told ya, etc.") they also make Pavlik´s resume worse, because when Taylor is such a bum, than Kelly beat nobody, I mean, today in general, people really having a problem with staying honest...
     
  8. VHB

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    Taylor should win the rematch. He can knock out Pavlik if he keeps himself in order and does not go berserk mode.

    Pavlik should win that lazy Abraham, who relies on pure power and rugged turtle defense.

    Sturm could lose to anyone in top10, but also win anyone. He might be the most exciting fighter considering the potential result. Sounds amusing because his style really isn´t.

    Sylvester, Duddy, Gevor etc... are over their heads on world level.

    If he can just listen to his corner and fight with an actual game plan, Asikainen will surprise everybody during next year. He knocked out Sylvester once and punished him in the rematch like a ragdoll until came the neck punch and stamina loss. He seems like a different man now and will hopefully rely on his fullest skills and not simply KO power.
     
  9. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    It seems to be that you´re from Scandinavia, but a bit more objectivity wouldn´t be bad....
     
  10. VHB

    VHB Active Member Full Member

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    We can always get back on this next autumn. :cool:
     
  11. iceman

    iceman Tis my Island Full Member

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    I would like to see Pavlik against Abraham.AA has many detractors but i don't know why,he has done little wrong in his boxing career.The win over Miranda was controversial but it just showed us how much heart AA has to continue with a badly broken jaw.I think Pavlik/Abraham would be another slugfest.I don't want to se boring Winky or Hopkins again
     
  12. Tom_Tocca

    Tom_Tocca The Provider Full Member

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    Pavlik vs. Abraham...

    ...Hearns (Pavlik) vs. Hagler (Abraham) - all over again (but for a much longer fight)...

    This fight would be much better than ´Taylor - Pavlik and this was a damn good middleweight fight already!
     
  13. bigeddie27

    bigeddie27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    there are some up and comers. Tyrone 'two guns' from philly seems like the real deal. And I fully expect gold medalist Andre Ward to take a title and become a champ.
     
  14. iceman

    iceman Tis my Island Full Member

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    I think you mean Tyrone 'young gun ' Brunsen - 18 fights with 18 1st round Ko's is very impressive even though he has been fighting stiffs
     
  15. Ramshall1

    Ramshall1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Looks like the Pav-JT rematch will be above 160. . . Pav would probably stay there (if he wins) and if he could get the Cal-Kessler winner.