The rest of the middleweight division...

I want to add Gennady Golovkin - he would definately KO Ward and Duddy on the same night...

 

Well stated :good

 

I agree, and with Duddy, he appears to be the modern day Quarry, not just Irish, but he can hit, and take a shot or 2, but his defense is not sound. He can beat alot of guys, I think, but not the top 5 :hi:

 

Good pernt, Dr Dekker= I forgot about Lee:good

 

maybe some guys like in the jnr middlewieght could go up in wieght:huh oh wait a sec they did and jermain won against winky,ouma and spinks.

it's a shame becuase jermain is going to go up in wieght (that was a given) and be in with all the supermids which is really really thick with talent since all the belt holders have been given a booster shot in the arm.

 

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I'm waiting for this one...

 

Lee is fighting Tuesday night in Chicago.I will see for myself if he is the real deal or not.It might be hard to guage anything from this fight though as his opponent doesn't look too good.

 

yes that is who i meant. He has got power and philly produces good fighters. they have an excellent boxing program over there. tough.

 

Abraham had Miranda partially hurt twice during that fight. Miranda recovered instantly. There is no god damn incling of anything that showed Abraham was going to stop Miranda at any point. Miranda imposed his power on Abraham and was beating him across the ring. Abraham just balled up into a shell and tried to explode in the last 30 seconds of every round..he was getting jabed to the head and body with no answer or solution from round one. Pavlik would disimate him. JT as well. He is an Overrated burger king clown.

 

:rofl :rofl :rofl amazing


also a middlewieght prospect is

smokin joe greene very powerful very quick and fluid.

 

I think it's the JT, Hopkins, Wright jerk circle that's starting to look a little overrated.

That said JT has a better shot against AA than Pavlik no doubt after what I saw in that last fight (speed, movement, quick combos, good countering off the ropes, stuff that'll give AA a harder day at the office than anything Pavlik brings to the table). Pavlik is being overrated now (no surprise), he's got some serious flaws, don't think his jab is fantastic either when he throws a jab he drops it down to his waist than picks it up like an amatuer half the time. Atleast Taylor has quicker hands, feet, and reflexes so he can get with that crap more often.

I said I didn't think the world of either fighter before this fight (and I don't think the world of AA, it's just that he's on their level), though JTs' stock went up a bit in my books, since he showed a fair amount of improvement (didn't think he'd be as aggressive, and effectively so).

 

on top of that, miranda hit abraham with right uppercuts. in fact, i think one of them broke the other part of his jaw (it might have been one straight right that broke his jaw in both places though so i dont know). One of kellys strong punches is a sneaky ass right uppercut. He can land that on abraham and it could end the night for him.

 

Abraham IMO could very well beat Pavlik. That'd be a great shootout. Abraham likely hits just as hard as Taylor, with a much better defense. Winky Wright, with less punches, and more power.

 

Let's not forget the fact AAs' jaw was broken changed the dynamic of the whole fight. He fought a completely different, far more defensive fight from that point on. He might have attempted to counter more of those right uppercuts if he was in better health.

As for Pavliks right uppercuts, he threw a few of those right uppercuts from too far out, and telegraphed a few others, what's a great way to counter a big right uppercut? Left hook, and AAs' got a great one.