The right man to beat Edwin Valero?

Jeff M · Apr 9, 2009

fatdrunkenslob said: ↑

I think part of the problem is if they put anyone in with Valero that has been recently sparked(Katsidis, Diaz, Casamayor, Barrios etc) and they get flattened in short order by Edwin all the critics will come back and say Valero was fighting left overs and ruined fighters. He really needs to fight JMM to launch his career to the next level.

BTW, I really wouldn't mind him fighting Khan because I can't get enough of seeing that guy KTFO.
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LOL..well Khan's already left the division and is picking a paper champion at 140 for his next fight..I think 135 is getting a bit hot for Khan! lol Warren's definitley trying to get as much cash as possible out of Khan for good reason! I thought Khan wanted to get revenge against Prescott first!

5Burowz · Apr 10, 2009

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I admit I have, for a few years now, been very reluctant to buy into the massive hype surrounding Edwin Valero. To some degree I still think that part of his appeal that has his fans already nominating him as a future all-time great and practically smuggling him into current pound-for-pound lists is that he is a largely unseen phenomenon in the Western world. Boxing fans love to die hard and spout off about the perfection of an unknown quantity. This went on, years ago, with Joe Calzaghe...before that, as you might remember, with Khaosai Galaxy. But, in both cases, sooner or later they arrived on the world stage and some, if not all, questions were revealed as both beginning and end.

There are certain unknowns that have lingered longer than they otherwise might have about Valero because of all the sanctioning and medical clearance issues and what not keeping him out of certain fights with a certain class of fighter in coutries with major boxing traffic. I don't want to get into any debate about the sanctioning issues and medical clearances. Those issues are nearly academic at this point, it seems.

My question is, based on what you have seen from Valero so far in his career. Who out there has the style and the tools to beat him?

Like I said, I am no Valero fan, but I was impressed with his recent demolition of Antonio Pitalua. I predicted that fight would go on much longer and be much more competitive than it was--even considering Pitalua's advanced state of boxing decrepitude. But I still don't know what to make of Valero.

All questions will probably be solved in time, but I am curious to get some input...and I am sure the debate will be contentious as it ever is when concerning this fighter.

Is there anyone between super-featherweight and lightweight that could simply outslug Valero and beat him at his own game?

Are there any technicians that you think would simply be too slick for Valero? How might they best go about outfoxing him?

Are there any chins around the weight classes in question that would hold up to Valero's power? If so, how does that change the fight and the odds?

Is speed the killer waiting to upend Valero's unbeaten streak?

How might Valero do against fellow prospects like Urbano Antillon and Jorge Linares--the two guys I think are the best up-and-comers at or around the weight?

Against the excellent Roman Martinez who appears seasoned and balanced while still young and fresh...an impressive combination?

It is my opinion that Juan Manuel Marquez, despite getting on in years and out of his best weight divisions would simply take Valero apart at this point in the young fighters' career? Too much elite experience, too slick, too cool, too precise, too complete a fighter, I think. What do you think?
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Contradiction in terms.

Lewisbell · Apr 10, 2009

I honestly think Juan Diaz could beat him

Guidokz · Apr 10, 2009

the right man to beat valero is actually arum..

if he ****ed up the with match making that is

Arriba · Apr 10, 2009

There are a few. I can think of three off the top of my head who reside at 135 right now.

Joan Guzman, JMM and Juan Diaz.

Joel Casamayor is a dark horse option as well.

Before you guys jump on that one...think about this...could Valero handle the intense cheatery and rough house tactics that Casa would bring to the fight? Valero fights with his chin out, Casamayor has good power. I'd say Casa stands a decent shot.

Cholo · Apr 10, 2009

Guzman would completely humilliate him.

mckay_89 · Apr 10, 2009

Guzman would completely humilliate him.
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If Guzman was in the right frame of mind i think he would beat Valero but i don't think he could keep his head out his arse for long enough to put in the proper training.

JMM would demolish Valero, he's just to skilled and still packs a punch at lightweight to keep Valero off him. Pac and Hatton are both no-brainers as well.

DOM5153 · Apr 10, 2009

ive seen one valero fight on youtube, the guy is getting to many supporters for being a KO artist, intelligent fighters will eat him for breakfast

Boxing Fanatic · Apr 10, 2009

Any skilled fighter with power, or not, can beat Valero.

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