The Ring lower Paul Williams in Rankings, Elavate Erislandy Lara!

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  1. Steenalized

    Steenalized Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good for them and Lara. He got robbed in the official records but properly rewarded in the counts. Wonder how the ABCs will respond
     
  2. RightCross

    RightCross Grandmaster of Boxing Full Member

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    IMO a bad precedent. Ring should report on what is the case not what they "think" is the case. Honor what the official judges do.
     
  3. gobblock

    gobblock Boxing Addict banned

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    That's probably the reason why, but justice is done as a side effect at least.
     
  4. pong

    pong Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i agree
     
  5. JMP

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    The Ring should set up their rankings based on the scorecards in close, debatable decisions that could go either way. Lara-Williams was not one of those cases. A blind person could see how badly Lara beat him. The fight was clear as can possibly be and the very definition of highway robbery in boxing. The Ring absolutely did the right thing here. **** those judges. Why should they rank a fighter higher than a guy he clearly lost to only because the judges, in an example of blatant corruption, gave him the W on paper. This is good for the sport.

    Would Jose Luis Ramirez deserve to be ahead of Whitaker after their first fight? Escalera over Everett? De La Hoya over Sturm? Nelson over Fenech after their first? Come on people.
     
  6. pong

    pong Boxing Addict Full Member

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    it could be problematic if the ring starts ignoring every decision they disagree with
     
  7. JMP

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    Close decisions in close, competitive fights should be honored, even if the Ring disagrees with the decision. But in cases like these, where 90-95 percent of fans and writers believe one guy clearly won the fight, I think the Ring can safely reward the victim of corruption or terrible scorecards. But let's say The Ring had MAB edging JMM or JMM edging Pacquiao in the second fight...they can't (and shouldn't) base their ratings off of that, and I don't think they will. This seems to be a special case.
     
  8. RightCross

    RightCross Grandmaster of Boxing Full Member

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    Agree,

    This is exactly how you lose credibility.
     
  9. JMP

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    It's how you gain credibility. They're not going against the decision rendered in a hotly contested fight. They're ignoring blatant corruption in a fight that wasn't even close. That's how it should be in cases like this. Thanks, but I don't need judges, who know less about the sport than I do, who are clearly getting some money/perks under the table, to tell me who won a fight like this. Most scorecards were between 10-2 and 8-4 Lara. Maybe 1 or 2 percent had Williams actually winning. That's a clear victory and Lara deserves to be rewarded for that. All fighters do who are the victims of **** like this. We're not talking Hagler-Leonard, Mayweather-Castillo, Hatton-Collazo, Dawson-Johnson I, Hopkins-Taylor I or II, or Williams-Martinez I.
     
  10. garfios

    garfios Dark Lord Full Member

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    Yes Lara's a GBP boy but he was thrown under the bus by GBP, they never thought he will win that fight and that would had make it easy for them not to make a fight with Canelo, his cow cash, they are looking for Alfonso Gomez, a guy that is not even a JMW and is not ranked (and if he is ranked I don't know why) why not reward Lara with a fight against Canelo and then if he wins bring Molina for the rematch.
     
  11. sailor pops

    sailor pops miam! vice Full Member

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    You can't lose any credibility on a blatant case like this. The move is rather a strong signal to the fans that boxing despite its flaws is still a credible sport.