The Ring Magazine published top 10 P4P. Smells a bit american favours

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  1. abbes

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    The Top 10 pound for pound lists of RingTV.com Co-Editors Michael Rosenthal and Doug Fischer, submitted as members of the voting panel for the Yahoo! Sports monthly poll, are set going into 2011.

    As we know, though, pound-for-pound rankings live and breathe. They can and will change in the coming year as the best fighters in the world face their elite counterparts in the ring.

    Here are the fighters we believe are the best regardless of weight and what their prospects are of remaining on the lists.

    MANNY PACQUIAO
    Rosenthal: No. 1
    Fischer: No. 1
    The Filipino star, driven solely by money for the remainder of his career, might never again face an opponent with a realistic chance of defeating him. Few give Shane Mosley much of a chance in their May 7 fight in Las Vegas. So Pacquiao’s hold on the top spot seems to be safe for the foreseeable future.

    FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR.
    Rosenthal: No. 2
    Fischer: No. 2
    The most-talented boxer in the world could lose his position on the list because of inactivity if his legal problems keep him out of the ring for too long. He last fought on May 1. No one knows when (if?) he might fight again.

    SERGIO MARTINEZ
    Rosenthal: No. 3
    Fischer: No. 4
    The Argentine has faced four top-level opponents in succession – Kermit Cintron, Paul Williams, Kelly Pavlik and Williams again – and deserves a break. That could come in the form of Sebastian Zbik or Andy Lee in his next fight, which probably means his position here is safe for now.

    ANDRE WARD
    Rosenthal: No. 4
    Fischer: Not ranked
    Ward will have to work hard to remain here in 2011. The former Olympic gold medalist faces still-dangerous Arthur Abraham and, if he wins, the winner of Carl Froch-Glen Johnson for the Super Six World Boxing Classic championship. The winner of the tournament then probably gets Lucian Bute as a reward.

    JUAN MANUEL LOPEZ
    Rosenthal: No. 5
    Fischer: No. 10
    The all-action Puerto Rican star probably will fight (and beat) Teon Kennedy on April 16 but could face Rafael Marquez in a rematch or talented Cuban Yuriorkis Gamboa in the summer or fall, either of whom would provide a serious test of his staying power.

    TIMOTHY BRADLEY
    Rosenthal: No. 6
    Fischer: Not ranked
    Bradley’s place on the pound-for-pound lists might not extend beyond Jan. 29, the date on which he faces Devon Alexander in a fight most observers believe will be extremely competitive. And even if he wins, a deep 140-pound division ensures more stiff challenges ahead.

    WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO
    Rosenthal: No. 7
    Fischer: No. 5
    Will we finally see David Haye vs. a Klitschko in 2011? The sides seem to be serious about a long-awaited showdown, according to reports, but we’ll believe it when we see it. Haye represents the principal threat to the Klitschkos’ firm hold on their positions on pound-for-pound lists. Tomas Adamek also is a legitimate opponent.

    VITALI KLITSCHKO
    Rosenthal: No. 8
    Fischer: No. 6
    See above.

    JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ
    Rosenthal: No. 9
    Fischer: No. 3
    The future Hall of Famer has done an admirable job of rebuilding his pound-for-pound status after his debacle against Mayweather. He thrashed Juan Diaz and Michael Katsidis in 2010. Now what? Marquez-Marcos Maidana would be terrific. Marquez-Erik Morales wouldn’t. It will be interesting to see whether a 37-year-old warrior can remain here.

    FERNANDO MONTIEL
    Rosenthal: No. 10
    Fischer: No. 7
    Montiel will face a significant challenge to his position here when he fights equally talented Nonito Donaire on Feb. 19. If he wins, he’ll become a true star. If Donaire wins, the Filipino-born American probably will replace Montiel on pound-for-pound lists in what would be a break-through victory.

    PONGSAKLEK WONJONGKAM
    Rosenthal: Not ranked
    Fischer: No. 8
    The longtime flyweight stalwart, who fights journeyman Roland Latuni on Jan. 6, could next face Daisuke Naito a fifth time (Wonjongkam is 2-1-1 against his Japanese rival) or capable Mexican Edgar Sosa. Either way, Wonjongkam will have to work to maintain his position here.

    TOMASZ ADAMEK
    Rosenthal: Not ranked
    Fischer: No. 9
    The Polish heavyweight is scheduled to fight TBA – Roy Jones Jr.? Denis Boytsov? Jean Marc Mormeck? – in April in his native country. After that, he will continue his quest to get either of the Klitschko brothers in the ring for a big payday and an opportunity to prove he can be a force in the division. Roy Jones Jr.? Please, no.


    Ward too high (he has no legacy in pro = no credit), Bradley is still unproven for me (where is the fuc. Amir Khan ranked???). JMM should be higher ranked
     
  2. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    Ward in 4th but no froch? ....americans. thick as pig ****
     
  3. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    Ward at 4? Lopez at 5? Bradley at 6? All of them above Marquez and Montiel :lol: :lol:

    What a joke.

    I like Ward, but i would rank him in the lower top 10. Lopez and Bradley should NOT be in the top 10.
     
  4. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    by far the worst pound for pound i have seen from an established magazine or website is at boxing talk .
     
  5. johnnywalkitoff

    johnnywalkitoff Member Full Member

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    3 Americans out 0f 12- with only one (fmj) being ranked by both...doesn't seem very biased to me...I think after pac, fmj, martinez and jmm and possibly the klit bros. you end up ranking on potential for guys like Ward, Bradley...I was surprised not to see Froch, Donaire, glad not to see b-hop..decent list and remember these are prettysubjective lists...we should see Froch-Ward in the near future and Bradley-Alexander/ Khan and Donaire/ Montiel are set...so things should settle down...I love JMM but i expect him to get knocked off this year...esp. if he moves up.
     
  6. Monstar

    Monstar The Future.. Full Member

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    Marquez is 4th at worst. terrible list. and Juanma's my ****in ***** but....who da **** has he beat to be that high? he's not top 10. Wlad has longevity so i can accept him...but Vitali? da hell has he beaten?

    Wards way too high too. this list is just bad. all i agree with is the top 3.
     
  7. johnnywalkitoff

    johnnywalkitoff Member Full Member

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    a lot of you guys seem to have a problem with rosenthal's rankings, fischer's list is pretty solid.
     
  8. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    Fischer's list is solid indeed.

    Rosenthal's list is a complete ****ing joke.
     
  9. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Marquez is either 3/4 you cant have ward that high in your top 10, personally I rate froch higher.

    This is my list:
    1.pac
    2.floyd
    3.martinez
    4.marquez
    5. wlad
    6. montiel
    7. donaire
    8.juanma lopez
    9: bute
    10:wonjongkam
     
  10. Wiirdo

    Wiirdo Boxing Addict banned

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    I think Juanma deserves to be around 10-8 P4P.
     
  11. knighty

    knighty Active Member Full Member

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    no carl froch??????????????? ****ing scandalous!!
     
  12. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ward at 4.

    Hometown billygoat is right on cue to be the dumbyanks next exposed hypejob.
     
  13. FlatNose

    FlatNose Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agree that Ward doesn't belong in the Top Ten, but certainly Froch doesn't either. That will become abundantly clear when Ward knocks him out.
     
  14. horst

    horst Guest

    Can someone please explain to me: what has Timothy Bradley done to merit being in the top 10???
     
  15. DDDUUDDDEE

    DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) Full Member

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    I wonder where Khan will be next year if he beats Bradley/Alexander and unifies the division...

    I also wonder where Haye will be if he beats both Klits.