The Ring should force the 1 and 2 (or 3) to fight every year.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by eze, May 15, 2009.


  1. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah... I agree if done right.
     
  2. Taylex

    Taylex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nice idea but this could get messy because whats to stop the other boxing magazines from creating their own top 10 and magazine title. ESB and other boxing websites could legitimately do the same.

    Rankings are not just about the top ten but can be huge and I dont think any magazine really cares about an unknown Belgium SMW champ for example who might be ranked 64 by the WBC or some up and coming fighter in Columbia.

    How would you rank a Belgium SMW champ and a Brazilian SMW champ that had both only fought domestically but were both registered with your sanctioning body?

    This is why I am against the idea of Magazines cherry picking the easy part of ranking the top ten fighters and then giving out titles like the are equivalent to world titles.
     
  3. Taylex

    Taylex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Constitution of proper sanctioning body:

    II.1 Uniform Control and Supervision of Boxing. To promote and obtain efficiency and harmony in the control and supervision of professional men's and women's boxing throughout the world.

    II.2 Encouragement of Boxing as Sport.

    II.3 Encouragement of Public Appreciation.

    II.4 Promotion of Clean, Fair and Equitable Competition. To keep professional boxing and all activities connected therewith, clean, fair and equitable to all parties concerned.

    II.5 Promotion of Boxing Safety. To make professional boxing as safe a sport as possible for boxers, and to promote their welfare.Endorsement, support and adoption of an International Boxers Traveling License including a yearly medical certificate and a boxer ID card to be carried by all boxers, which should contain their record of medical examinations and comments by the ringside physicians after every bout, as well as all additional information necessary for the strict supervision of the health and safety of travelling boxers throughout the world.

    II.6 Recognition of Champions.

    II.7 Certification and Recognition of Championship and Elimination Bouts. To certify and recognize championship bouts in each weight division for the WBC championship, provided that such bouts are held in compliance with this Constitution and the Rules and Regulations.

    II.8 Promotion of Competition in Boxing.

    II.9 Elimination of Discrimination in Boxing.

    II.10 Mediation to Resolve Controversies.

    There is allot of responsibility there and thats why I am against The Ring just cherry picking the duty of formulating a top ten which is the easy bit. They dont take responsibility for ensuring standards are met and health and safety of the fighters.
     
  4. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    There's no incentive for the fighters to face eachother for a paper belt with no sanctioning body, that assual fans don't even know exists. If the ring could raise some money to make the fight happen and then say if you don't take the money we offer, which would have to be more then they would otherwise get for fighting someone else then we will strip you and everyone will know your a *****...of course this is living in a dream land...but hey a brotha can dream right?
     
  5. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I didn't think the Ring is a good idea.

    What I think was a good idea is for the 1, 2 and 3 to be forced to fight somehow.

    Who determines who they are is another matter. But why not start with the current ABCs. They don't even do that within their own rankings.
     
  6. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    I agree with you, if the number 1 fighter in the division faces no fighter in his division in the top 3, the title should be stripped and given to the winner of 2 vs. 3.
     
  7. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The problem is that we would see many 2s and 3s agree to have the 1 stripped.
     
  8. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    This would only happen if the number 1 didn't fight either of the two in the span of a year and a half, if that is the case I have to problem with the stripping of the title.
     
  9. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It would be fairly easy for them to agree that the no. 1 was too strong. They would then just say that the no. 1 is unreasonable in his demands etc. and after x months they could fight for the title just like they had planned.
     
  10. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    There are always different circumstances, but his is where the panel for the Ring rankings would come in and make a decision about that particular situation.
     
  11. Farmboxer

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    Ring will do what they are told to do!
     
  12. UndisputedUK

    UndisputedUK Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Watch the Rocky films. (Fiction) Back as far as the early 1980's "Rocky" was Ring Magazine heavyweight champion. No WBO or IBF back then.
    I think the big money now rides with the Ring belt and Golden boy.
     
  13. Funtime

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    I wouldn’t bother Taylex, these freaks are coco. I forget Vitali Klitschko is “the linear heavyweight champion”.

    1 vs. 2 right?
     
  14. McGrain

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    That misses the point of the Ring rankings.

    Ring treats boxers first and foremost as men of honour who wants to fight. They don't strip champions, ever. The idea is that it will come out in the wash one way or another, that a fighter who is a ducking fighter is a fighter who is a losing fighter - also, it means that anyone who has the belt has beaten a legitimate champion

    It is designed to specifically to prevent "paper champions", matching the #2 and ##3 contenders in the event of a retirement. OR if a champion, a man of honour, decides to relinquish the belt, as happened recently in the case of Joe Calzaghe.

    Ring respects fighters in it's champioship policy, unlike the alpha**** organisations.
     
  15. BigBone

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    Good idea, but a magazine can't force ****, promoters would rather lose the title than to do what a magazine owned by Golden Boy Promotions orders to do.

    Then again: good idea, but The Ring ratings are seemingly biased or stupid anyway, and a magazine that should be objective and independent, shouldn't play promoter.