The "Ring Title" should count as an "official title."

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  1. Clarkson

    Clarkson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Baldomir wanted to fight for the WBA & IBF titles as well as the WBC title he would have paid more in sanctioning fees than he made from the fight.
    These sanctioning fees can be ridiculous.

    Mosley was number 1 fighting Mayweather number 3 in the Welterweight division at the time.
     
  2. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not saying the ABC's are perfect (or even very good), not at all.

    But they are far more influential, and important, than the Ring magazine.

    The Ring magazine belt can't survive (without major changes) without the other sanctioning bodies. They can survive without the Ring.


    The ring has a major flaw in that once they award it, they (by their own rules) have no control over it. Hopkins and his seniors circle jerk at light heavy is the perfect example.

    Hopkins - if he beat Calzaghe - could have gone on forever fighting his other old foes, Tarver, Glen Johnson and RJJ - and those guys could have kept passing the belt around until they were in wheelchairs.

    If they change those kind of rules, guess what? They're identical to other organisations.
     
  3. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    no because they do not enforce mandatories.
     
  4. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    aaaa ok....good point...:good

    IN MY OPINION MANDATORY OPPONENTS HELP MORE THAN THEY HURT (THESE DAYS)..

    HOW MANY TIMES DO WE NOT GET TO SEE A FIGHT BECAUSE A FIGHTER WANTS TO KEEP HIS BELT (RIGHTFULLY SO AS TO A FIGHTER THAT BELT MEANS ALOT), HAS A BIG FIGHT LINED UP, AND ENDS UP FIGHTING A WEAK OPPONENT, OR SOMETIMES A DECENT OPPONENT (RARELY A GOOD OR GREAT ONE) AND WE NEVER SEE THE FIGHT WE WANTED:deal

    GOOD FOR THE RING FOR NOT IMPOSING MANDATORY CHALLENGERS:good
     
  5. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    negative about who they coulda passed it around too..

    Bhop beats all 3 of those fighters post 2005 AND THUS WOULDA KEPT IT THE ENTIRE TIME

    NICE POST THOUGH!
     
  6. heehoo

    heehoo TIMEXICAH! Full Member

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    In my opinion, that IS the official title.
     
  7. unsigned_userv2

    unsigned_userv2 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume nip102 is somehow affiliated with The Ring magazine?
     
  8. StreetsofRAGE

    StreetsofRAGE Ballin Full Member

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    I think it's more legit than any of the other titles.
     
  9. uglyandproud7

    uglyandproud7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    agree
     
  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Dosent sound that legit to me :-(
     
  11. Flyin Ryan

    Flyin Ryan Active Member Full Member

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    Here's my simple version:

    -the ABCs are corrupt
    -the Ring so far doesn't appear to be
    -once they appear corrupt, I'll discount them too

    Control like how David Haye is fighting Audley Harrison for example?

    After knocking out Michael Sprott, Audley Harrison was ranked #13 heavyweight in the world by the WBA. Not long after, Harrison was announced as the next opponent for David Haye's championship.

    Do you, thesandman, believe Harrison is the 14th-best heavyweight in the world and is better than people that do not appear on the top 15 such as Vitali Klitschko and Wladimir Klitschko? Or do you think the WBA got their palms greased to put him in the rankings? http://www.boxnews.com.ua/en/ratings/WBA/Heavyweight/08-2010
     
  12. Clarkson

    Clarkson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The WBA rankings seem to be missing a couple of top fighters.

    WBA
    Champ-Haye
    1-Chagaev
    2-Valuev
    3-Boytsov
    4-Ustinov
    5-Solis
    6-Povetkin
    7-Dimitrenko
    8-Meehan
    9-Adamek
    10-Ibragimov

    The Ring
    Champ-Wlad
    1-Vitali
    2-Haye
    3-Povetkin
    4-Adamek
    5-Chagaev
    6-Chambers
    7-Boytsov
    8-Valuev
    9-Dimitrenko
    10-Arreola
     
  13. ricardoparker93

    ricardoparker93 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The ring champ is THE champ thats all there is to it. Only fighters who hold that belt are true champions lets be honest about it, and TV networks like Showtime and HBO should encourage it more actively.
     
  14. ricardoparker93

    ricardoparker93 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Vitali was champ, retired and so the title became vacant. Wlad then fought Chagaev the number three contender and was awarded the title due to the situation with his brother, wheres the problem?

    As for sanctioning bodies 'organising fights' THEY SHOULDN'T BE! It should be up to fighters and promoters, they get the venue and the relevant boxing commision will then appoint Judges and a referee, what do the sanctioning bodies actually contribute?
     
  15. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Read below. Its not so
    :deal