The Ring's 100 Greatest Punchers (2003)

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  1. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    The Ring had this list back in 2003, their criteria was not necessarily based on who hit the hardest, but also took into account other factors such as accuracy, timing, combos, etc...

    For each fighter, they listed things such as:

    Best Punch
    Greatest Knockout
    Man He Couldn't Knockout
    When the Punch Wasn't Enough
    Beyond the Punch (overall skills and weaknesses).

    This was 10 years ago. If you were to make some changes, who would you add and how would you list the above categories?

    Such as this:

    Manny Pacquiao

    Best Punch: Straight Left
    Greatest Knockout: Ricky Hatton
    Man He Couldn't Knockout: Juan Manuel Marquez
    When the Punch Wasn't Enough: Erik Morales 1
    Beyond the Punch: Super fast of hand and foot, great combos and flurries, unpredictable angles, not the best ring cutter, improved his right hand as his career progressed.

    Diego Corrales:

    Best Punch: Left Hook
    Greatest Knockout: Jose Luis Castillo 1
    Man He Couldn't Knockout: Joel Casamayor
    When the Punch Wasn't Enough: Floyd Mayweather
    Beyond the Punch: Terrific infighter, knew how to shorten punches, quick hands on the inside, slow feet, average chin, great heart/resilence.

    Wladimir Klitschko:

    Best Punch: Straight Right
    Greatest Knockout: Calvin Brock? Chris Byrd 2?
    Man He Couldn't Knockout: Ross Purrity
    When the Punch Wasn't Enough: Lamon Brewster 1
    Beyond the Punch: Great size, judges distance well, quick hands for his size, great jab, good left hook, adapted his style to make up for his shaky chin, cautious fighter, prone to clinching.

    I supposed picking the man he couldn't KO and when the punch wasn't enough can often be interchangable.

    I don't know where I'd rank these guys on the top 100, but they'd be on there.

    http://boxing.about.com/od/history/a/ring_punchers.htm


    http://static.boxrec.com/wiki/1/11/RING.2003.Yearbook.jpg

     
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  2. jas

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    Great list, thanks for posting
     
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    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    Finding it hard to notice any omissions.
     
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  4. LittleRed

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    Aurelio Herrera. Perez. Sung kil moon. Antonio Avelar. Maybe Germany Torres.
     
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  5. The Long Count

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    Still have this issue. Solid work by the ring on this one.
     
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  6. Seamus

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    Dempsey over Fitz, Foreman and Tyson irritates me.
     
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  7. Shake

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    The list isn't as horrid as what they usually come up with. Still, Dempsey too high, Julian Jackson criminally low. Duran is a bit high -- he had a great right hand, but it was his everything that got him those wins in the bigger divisions. Guess that depends on your definition of a puncher --

    Bob Foster too low, too. Marciano too high. Seeing a lot of attrition wear-you-down types high. Hagler too high. Chavez too high. Schmeling way too high.

    Still, a better effort than the usual "you didn't even think about this for ten seconds" deal.
     
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  8. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dempsey number 2 at worst. Most destructive force in sports history. A better offense than Ruth, Cobb, Grange, or Tilden. A flame of pure fire.
     
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  9. The Long Count

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    Schmeling way too high. Hardly, If anything I would put him on the other side of the 50. The only Man to KO hall of famer and 200+ fight veteran Young Stribling, the only man to KO Steve Hamas, the only man to KO a prime Johnny Risko and one of only two men to KO Joe Louis the other being Marciano 15 years later in Joe's final fight. Add in a very respectable 40 career Ko's and 8 years of his career lost to the war and your talking about a great puncher. Schmeling's right was a feared weapon.
     
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  10. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    Lists like this are pointless; there have been so many fighters that there is no way to even begin to make such judgements. I personally think Saad Muhammad is way way too high.
    Two very astute points made by this list, and I read it when it came out. One is in reference to Zarate's left uppercut to the body, the other is to the straight right of Chavez.
     
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  11. Thread Stealer

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    Over the last 10 years, who would you add to the list and what would you choose on the categories?
     
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  12. Boxed Ears

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    Tim Bradley. Under the Hagleresque category, obviously.
     
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  13. The Long Count

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    Wlad, Pac. Maybe Valero, Corrales.
     
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  14. Boxed Ears

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    P4P, Wladimir isn't much of a puncher at all, to be frank.
     
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    Aurelio Herrera is probably the biggest omission. Even two decades after his death many considered him the hardest puncher p4p who ever lived.

    Lem Franklin
    Curtis Sheppard
     
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