The Ring's 100 Greatest Punchers (2003)

Yes on both counts.

 

Exactly.
It's just that the chances of Sonny doing something awful to him before he gets a chance to do something scary with that right to Sonny are huge. Also, Sonny could well intimidate Johansson into under-performing, have him just trying to survive, which wouldn't work anyway.

With Patterson of the second fight against Johansson of the first fight, it could go either way. I feel Johansson had more potential, in a strictly heavyweight sense. And seeing what he did to Floyd first time he should have just bossed Floyd from the outset, but of course that wasn't his style.
All credit to Patterson, in reversing his brutal defeat with his own brutal win against the swede.

 

There was a heavyweight back in the 1910's from Tasmania, Bill Turner who couldn't box a lick but appears to have been a hell of a puncher.

 

Goddard should make it before Turner, don't you think? Or is there a cut-off date?

Certainly Sullivan should be top 15.

 

It's a great list and a fun list but Julian Jackson should surely be in the top ten ..

 

Ingo turned down a $1000,000 to fight Liston.

 

Mickey Walker isnt even on there FFS he should be inside the top 10 and is one of the few guys who proved literal P4P power carrying it from WW to HW. Choynski another massive ommisions. Freddie Steele, Sung-Kil Moon, Ceferino Garcia, Turkey Thompson should be on there. Perhaps Michael Moorer, Leo Lomski, Jack Delaney, Eddie Booker.

 

With stories like this it's little wonder many scoff at many such accounts of the day.

It's good he's getting some due and obviously he was the puncher of his day and an amazing one at that, but jeez.

 

Cheers JT. Good to see u posting again.

 

LOL...an exaggeration, I'm sure. But by all accounts it was a very violent knockdown. Something akin to one of Frazier's knockdowns at the hands of George Foreman. So maybe closer to that somersault than not.

 

Maybe not such an exaggeration ,I think Jeffries power was seriously overated.

 

Which class men did Walker stop at lhvy and Hvy?:think

 

I don't see why that would make you scoff. If I had a plugged nickel for every time someone said that Foreman hit frazier so hard he lifted him of the ground I could open a metal doughnut shop. He hit the guy the guy fell and did a 360, most likely because of momentum and the way he rolled over his shoulder. Doesn't seem impossible.

 

I think burt bienstock saw someone land one of those somersault-inducing punches back in the 1940s or '50s.
If it wasn't burt it was someone else on this board.
I wish I could remember who the fighter was.