The Ring's 50 best fighters (1946 to 1996)

You know, after making my tribute video on him, I think I learned a new respect for him, He was definitely an all time great.

 

Joe Louis fought well past '46--why was he excluded? Because he wasn't prime?

And JCC is way too high.

 

that would be my guess. the post war louis was not the same at all. and yes, JCC is high:good

 

It's a **** list in general, but that's to be expected with these sort of big publication things. Seeing Saldivar as low as #50 pretty much told me all I needed to know, and leaving Rodriguez to an honorable mention? Shameful.

 

Did i just see Zarate at 11? This guy is so ****in overrated its not even funny. Who the **** did he beat? Zamora and Ferrari, omg top 10 all time.

 

Don't forget Davila and Martinez, both better fighters than the ones you mentioned. He should've gotten the nod over Pintor as well, IMO. I agree, though, that is a bit high. However, there are many more factors to take into consideration than simply the fighter's paperwork, such as domination (a major part of Zarate's aura). Actually watching the fights and analyzing the fighter's abilities helps as well.:good

 

I still see 95% of heavyweights in history not surviving a post war Joe Louis. Check this out

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He should be in the honorable mentions category or at the bottom near cervantes, no way is he better than pernell whitaker.

 

That's still a whole shitload of Heavyweights you do see surviving, then. Probably a lot more than myself.

 

I would agree that he wasn't better than Whitaker, but disagree on the other count. He definitely deserves to be on the list, methinks. To each his own, though, I guess.

 

Ok let me go further. 99% of heavyweights. Only a few ATGs in history would defeat a 1946 Joe Louis. Louis was a big strong guy in 1946, still had very fast hands, combinations, and lethal power. He still had a fantastic jab. He did lose a little of his timing, legs, reflexes, but he made up for it by becoming bigger and stronger. He still had blazing fast hands in 1946. Checkout that combination he first floors Mauriello with. Louis really didn't begin a sharp decline until 1948.

 

I was just giving you a hard time, man.:good

 

Sorry. I like Joe Louis a little too much Can't keep my eyes off his films(no homo)

 

sure, sure. yeah, even THAT louis was fantastic but he was beatable at that point. pre-war, it's hard to predict him losing to anyone but the very, very best. without the same physical skills as his prime, post war louis was not as active, fluid and could be outhustled. could still beat almost anyone but it's like pre-exile and post-exile ali: 2 different beasts

 

I think the very best Joe Louis was this one right here. Notice how fast his feet are sliding in and out of range. His triple left hook combination. His left jabs snap out there like a snake. He even takes some huge Baer wallops. His jab, timing, speed, combinations, sense of range are so perfect.


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