The ring's hw top 5 decade by decade.

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  1. lufcrazy

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    In this month's issue of the ring, thought it worth posting. The ring listed the top 5 hw's decade by decade and then ranked the decade on overall quality of the field.

    1890's - Grade B.

    Jeffries
    Fitzsimmons
    Corbett
    Maher
    Sharkey

    1900's - B+

    Johnson
    Jeffries
    Langfrod
    Jeannette
    McVea

    1910's - B

    Dempsey
    Johnson
    Langford
    Wills
    Jeannette

    1920's - C+

    Dempsey
    Wills
    Tunney
    Sharkey
    Godfrey

    1930's - C-

    Louis
    Schmelling
    Baer
    Braddock
    Sharkey

    1940's - B-

    Louis
    Charles
    Walcott
    Bivins
    Ray

    1950's - B

    Marciano
    Liston (!)
    Charles
    Walcott
    Patterson

    1960's - B+

    Ali
    Frazier
    Liston
    Patterson
    Ellis (!)

    1970's - A+

    Ali
    Foreman
    Frazier
    Holmes
    Norton

    1980's - B-

    Tyson
    Holmes
    Witherspoon
    Holyfield
    Spinks

    1990's - A-

    Holyfield
    Lewis
    Bowe
    Tyson
    Ibeabuchi (!)

    2000's - C

    Lewis
    Wladimir
    Vitali
    Byrd
    Chagaev

    2010's - D+

    Wladimir
    Vitali
    Povetkin
    Haye
    Adamek

    Thoughts? I put exclamation marks next to the picks I thought were the worst 3.
     
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  2. Legend X

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    Nothing wrong with Jimmy Ellis making #5 of the 1960s.

    I think the relative overall grades for each decade are all very debatable.
     
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  3. lufcrazy

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    I wouldn't put him above Johanneson.
     
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  4. McGrain

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    You're gonna get a lot of this until you have your list ironed out but - Peter Jackson is a lock for the 1890's.

    Probably bumps the grade, too.
     
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  5. lufcrazy

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    It's not my list.

    It's taken from the ring magazine may 2012 issue :good
     
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  6. McGrain

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    ...well Jesus, that's a BAD **** up by them.


    What does everyone make of Jackson's exclusion?
     
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  7. Legend X

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    Johansson did nothing after 1959.
    Patterson kick his ass in 1960 and '61, and that was that.
     
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    Past his prime for almost the whole decade, but, yeah, he probably deserves in.
     
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  9. Vano-Irons

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    I agree, Jackson needs to be in there.

    What about Choynski? Could he feasibly squeeze in?
     
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  10. lufcrazy

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    can't be arsed checking boxrec but wasn't the machen ko1 in 60? and the patterson ko?

    if either aren't then I'll rescind my criticism on that.

    was ellis any better than terrell though?
     
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  11. lufcrazy

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    technically it's from 1892-1899 in the magazine.
     
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  12. edward morbius

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    *Ingo ko'd Machen in '58 and Patterson in '59.

    I don't know their criteria. If h2h, Liston makes sense in the '50's. If on accomplishments in the decade, he does not and it should have gone to Johansson.

    I would have gone with Ingo and listed Liston only in the '60's.

    My criterium would have been if this man were stretched in his first fight of the next decade, and then vanished from top-level boxing, would he be viewed as a top man. Dempsey in the teens would be. Liston in the fifties would not.
     
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  13. McGrain

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    Which HW's do you give a ghost of a chance for being ranked in three decades? Stretching it.
     
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  14. ironchamp

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    Interesting list.

    While I don't necessarily agree with the order some of the top 5 picks, I agree with the ratings of each decade.

    If you were to put this in the general forum they Klitschko trolls would send you virtual anthrax.
     
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  15. lufcrazy

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    my bad.

    yeah ingo for the 50's then deifnitely.
     
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