The ring's hw top 5 decade by decade.

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Better to fight tua than ruiz certainly.

    Tyson had dominated golota.

    Anyone placing lewis ahead of wlad purely because he beat tyson needs to reconsider which sport they follow.

    Byrd could feasibly rank above vitali when you put it like that.
     
  2. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I dont give Johnson much credit for the Jeffries beating either lol.
     
  3. Dempsey1238

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    And what did Liston do in the 1950's to be rank number 1 over Marciano?
     
  4. lufcrazy

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    Then we have a different ethos when it comes to hype, perception and significance.
     
  5. Ramon Rojo

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    H2H


    Based on achievement?


    1. Marciano

    2. Patterson

    3. Charles

    4. Johanson

    5. Walcott
     
  6. lufcrazy

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    ingo > patterson for the 1950's
     
  7. Dempsey1238

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    We dont know who would win in a match of Marciano vs Liston, since Liston was green while Rocky was champion. Which would not be fair to Liston.

    And by the time Liston got to the top 1 rank contender in 58, Marciano was pushing 37, which would not have be fair to Marciano for being way past his due date. H2H is all guess work, I see a lot of fights were the underdog won.

    Marciano has more than a outside chance imo to win.
     
  8. lufcrazy

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    Had rocky defended against liston, there's no way liston would have been ready for the kind of fight rocky would bring.

    Rocky in the early 50's was better than Liston in the late 50's imo.
     
  9. exocet76

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    Mmm, What about his win over Vitali easily beating anything on Vlad's resume. You seem to be ignoring valid points presented to you and continue to talk bolloxs. The fact is Vitali and Tinkerbell rate as greater wins than anything Vlad has. Go back to KlitWorld were a loss is a win.:hi:
     
  10. lufcrazy

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    you're supposed to quote someone when responding to them :-(
     
  11. Dempsey1238

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    The match was hype and race wise significance, on the grounds of Ali Fraizer and other big bouts.

    But when you get around to it, Johnson beat a 6 year retire old man. This was not the Jeff that beat Corbett or Fitz. I give Johnson as much credit for this win as say Holmes over Ali or Marciano Louis.

    It should not effect the legend of Jeff(I know it does), no one holds Louis lost to Marciano against him, or Tyson's losses to Williams or Lewis. Or Holyfiled's recent bouts.

    People I think seem to forgot that Jeff was out of the ring for 6 years. What would you say if Lewis came back right now and took on Wlad. It turn out to be the biggest fight money wise in history(As Johnson Jeff was) and Lewis the favorite coming into this fight.

    Than Wlad destorys Lewis showing that he was not the man he was 6 or 7 years ago. Were would you rank Wlad if that happen?? I would not give Wlad a lot of credit for that win, just as I dont give Johnson over Jim.
     
  12. Dempsey1238

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    Perhaps, perhaps not, we never know for sure.

    But as 1950's go, time wise the fight was not in the plans for it to be fair either way.

    If you though a late 50's Liston would lose to a early 50's Marciano. Than a prime Marciano vs Liston around 1952/53 would be a mismatch?

    I hope you favor 1958 Liston over 1958 Marciano? Assuming Rocky lasted that long. around 36/37 years of age would ask too much for a Marciano win here.
     
  13. lufcrazy

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    It does not affect my viweing of jeffries in the slightest, the guy was coming off a long layoff.

    However I give utmost credit for Johnson giving a dominant performance in what was the biggest fight in history at that point.

    Anything else is sheer revisionism at it's worst.
     
  14. lufcrazy

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    A mismatch yeah, no green fighter is gonna compete against the level of pressure and power that a prime rocky will bring for 15 rounds.

    58 Liston pushes 58 Rocky's **** in.
     
  15. lufcrazy

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    Should Foreman not be rated in the 70's for failing to avenge his losses?