The rise of a legend

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  1. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I do. Camacho was more athletic than Pea, with more speed, but in terms of actual skill... Whitaker was clearly superior to Camacho, and proved it by beating better fighters. Speed isnt everything.
     
  2. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    not quite sure what you mean. In his prime he was unbeatable and once past his prime the losses begin. The Haugen fight verified he was well past it so further losses to Chavez and Trinidad should come as no surprise. As with any other great; Ali, Robinson, Duran, etc. losses were mingled with mild successes and more titles but the magic was gone. :?
     
  3. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good call Robbi. There is a general rule in boxing that when you have two boxers of equal ability, power, chin, etc, speed always wins out.
     
  4. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    "Unbeatable".... Edwin Rosario arguably beat him.. or you gonna say Camacho was past his prime in that fight as well.:roll:

    And Camacho wasnt in the same class as Ali, Robinson, and Duran. He may have had the talent to be, but not the dedication and desire.

    In that way he was similar to another PR fighter with amazing talent, Wilfred Benitez. But Benitez was better than Camacho.
     
  5. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe, but Howard Davis Jr, Bernard Taylor, Greg Page, Pernell Whitaker, and Tony Tubbs could give very strong arguments to that.
     
  6. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Do you really want to stand by that statement.

    If you mean all flash and very little substance, then perhaps.

    But as far as effective boxing technique, I will start my list with JCC. Far more effective boxing technique.
     
  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    whipping your hands around in pitty pat punches to little avail is not what i call boxing talent. it seems a skill more suited to cheerleading.
     
  8. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    LEGEND
     
  9. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Did you ever catch Camacho-Davis? hector at his prime could whip Howard with one hand behind his back. Hector would need both hands for Pernell but he'd still win comfortably.
     
  10. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I saw a tiny bit of that fight, but Howard was around four, fives years past his prime.In an interview with KO, around 1983, he seemed to have some reservations about beating Howard.Hector could possibly beat both Davis and Whitaker, but truthfully, it could also go the other way.
     
  11. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, guys like Ali, Robinson and Duran all beat great fighters to prove their legendariness. Who were the great fighters that the macho man beat to claim that status?

    Also, why shouldn't we take the Haugen loss as proof that Camacho was never on the level of a Chavez?

    Had Camacho shown signs before fighting Haugen that he was on the decline?

    Camacho, as far as I'm concerned, beat very few live fighters throughout his prime. Most of his wins came against past it fighters like Limon, Boza-Edwards, Mancini, Davis, and they weren't all that in their hey-day either.
     
  12. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :rofl

    You forgot Cory Spinks, Lou Bizarro and Paulie Malignaggi.
     
  13. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The best pure boxers of the last 40 years are Whitaker, and Benitez.
     
  14. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Camacho would have had as much chance at beating Whitaker as Chris Rock would have at becoming President.
     
  15. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    They were the same age and Julio had 60 more fights. How does this make him more past his prime than Julio?

    Camacho was a nothing. Greg Haugen- who was well older than him- ****ing schooled him.