The rise of a legend

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  1. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    mocking him doesnt take away from all that he accomplished. Everyone thought Leonard would school him and he couldnt. Fact is Hector was all business in that fight and to prove it look at the faces in the audiences at the conclusion. Hector made believers.

    I remember getting the impressions off someone at a bar a few months later and he honestly told me "I couldnt believe the way Hector fought. I couldnt believe what happened in that fight"

    Now you know I dont like to harp on it but it WAS a great victory considering the fact that hector was so far past it.

    As for Whitaker it is too much for me to believe that he could have his way with Hector. I mean look at what he did to Limon! My man was a killer in the ring-too quick to possibly compete against. It would take a great pressure fighter like Duran to wear him down but I dont any boxers that could take him. Like Roy Jones, he was too quick to try and box him.
     
  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    one of the greatest douchebags, certainly.

    kind of an also-ran in the world of championship boxing. i can think of 20 or 30 fighters who would have laid waste to him, just off the top of my head.
     
  3. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ray Leonard wasnt one of them :D
     
  4. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    As if anyones going to listen to that punks own words :lol:

    Jesus christ, could a source be any worse. It's probably his own words per the Whitaker spar too :lol:
     
  5. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    The Rooster pearls are finally rubbing off :lol:
     
  6. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    While you're talking accompliments, what would you say is his greatest ever win?

    Didn't think so

    :lol:
     
  7. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The debate rages on
     
  8. JohnThomas1

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    You know i was always a bit disappointed in Ramirez's delivery. His KO record is excellent but i find him more of a thudding type puncher than anything. Certainly not the snap great punchers had. Good record tho, just didn't excite me.

    Regardless tho Howard Davis stunned Edwin, and if Davis could stun him Haugen sure could. I think Haugen had enough power to be dangerous in this particular fight.

    Haugen had a superb chin.

    I think you underrate Haugen a bit, and maybe overrate my fave Edwin. Haugen did some subtle things in there, and Edwin's not exactly Wilfred Benitez in there once he abandoned his fine countering and boxing skills. Haugen outpointed Jimmy Paul, he knows his way around the ring.

    Unlike Bramble, Haugen wouldn't decide to go home and fight another day when feeling the vaunted Rosario power. He'd keep winging and trying all the way to the finish. Edwin's chin isn't the greatest, i'd have no problem at all putting Haugen above him durability wise.

    Rosario would be a 7-5 fave for me. This fight near happened, if i stumble over the odds i have somewhere i'll post.
     
  9. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ROFLMAO - Long live this thread.

    Since we're talking KO Magazine and World Boxing

    I think the mags most likely to contain the info Red claims are:

    World Boxing

    July 1985: Sensationalal Hector Camacho: Poised for the lightweight throne
    Plus: Mugabi, Holmes,Superfights, Curry, Cooney.

    Dec. 1985 Special Previews: Hager vs. Mugabi, Hearns vs. Schuler
    Plus: Camacho-Ramirez, Pintor, McGirt

    Jan. 1986: Curry & McCrory Clash for the Undisputed Welterweight Crown
    Plus: Camacho, Breland, Holmes-Spinks, Benitez.

    March 1986: Michal Spinks' Own Story: From the streetlight to the spotlight

    Plus: McGuigan, Camacho-Rosario, Whitaker


    KO Magazine

    Feb. 1985: Gerry Cooney: How far can he go this time?
    Colour pin-up: Michael Spinks. Interview: Ray Mancini. Also: Dream fights, Hector Camacho

    May 1985: Thomas Hearns: KO fighter of the year
    Colour Pin-up: Gerry Cooney. Also Camacho-Ramirez, Truth Williams, Year in Review

    Jan 1986: Macho Mania! Hector Camacho takes aim at 10 tough targets
    Colour pin-up: Jimmy Paul. Interview: Alexis Arguello. Also: Truth Williams, Curry-McCroey

    July 1986: Tyson, McGuigan, Hagler: the stars catch fire and boxing is hot again!
    Colour pin-up: Azumah Nelson. Also Camacho-Chavez.

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    Mind you, if it pops up as only a line in an article, it could virtually be in any of the mags.
    July 85 of World Boxing and Jan 86 of KO magazine certainly looks a goer though :good
     
  10. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Touche and a half mate :good
     
  11. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What does that matter? What was barkley's biggest win prior to knocking out Hearns? It's a moot point. Same with Lloyd Honeyghan or or Aaron Pryor Gaby Canizales or Terry Norris or Buster Douglas or George Foreman or Marvin Hagler who all went on to big wins the doubters said they could never achieve.

    Hector didnt have that problem in his day because he was always considred the man to beat.
     
  12. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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  13. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To point out the obvious Red, those guys went out and PROVED they could get that big scalp. Hector didn't. Proof is becoming a bit of a theme with regards to this thread.
     
  14. Xplosive

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    Well we're gonna have to disagree. I believe Chapo would have put a serious hurtin on Haugen, and forced a stoppage. Haugen never faced a puncher like Rosario, and no Jimmy Paul doesnt count.
     
  15. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm still looking for it. I looked thru several issues yesterday and some today and havent yet found the article. I'm sure John is delighted :lol: but as I said I have just begun to look so you could say I'm still in the process. I lost a few issues of Ring and others several years ago due to my maggot problems. How many I cannot say. My last resort will be simply to reorder the World boxing mag I was referring to which may be in there. Somebody out there must have seen the article (Salsanchezfan?) and would be helpful if they would speak up.