The rise of (eastern) EURO boxing..........has it had a positive inpact???

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by bumdujour, Feb 20, 2008.


  1. PolishPummler

    PolishPummler Obsessed with Boxing banned

    19,752
    4
    Oct 15, 2005
    BTW troll the Latin countries and the US have the E.Euro's outnumbered by far and have been competing for far longer.
     
  2. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

    34,525
    7
    Mar 10, 2007
    Bute and Diaconu are having a positive impact on boxing, for example.

    (What a strange thread!?)
     
  3. PolishPummler

    PolishPummler Obsessed with Boxing banned

    19,752
    4
    Oct 15, 2005
    Holmes
    Tyson
    Marciano

    All champs in weak era's.

    People seem to forget that there have more weak years at HW then there have been competitive years.
     
  4. bumdujour

    bumdujour Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,990
    18
    Jul 29, 2007
    yes. and if i were a fighter i´d rather be a sven ottke making big bucks in germany for fighting tucker pudwill rather than being roberto leyva going to war with barrera for about 2000 dollars!!

    but is a fight like ottke vs pudwill better for boxing (from a fans perspective, and you are a fan, not a fighter right) than say chavez vs taylor???
     
  5. bumdujour

    bumdujour Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,990
    18
    Jul 29, 2007
    yes and your point is???
     
  6. Tunney5

    Tunney5 Active Member Full Member

    692
    1
    Nov 21, 2007
    :good True!

    Most of the East Europeans are more exciting to watch than the huggers (Ruiz, Skelton) runners (Byrd) featherfists (Johnson, Donald) and slow movers (Briggs).

    Chagaev vs. Calloway II, Ibragimov vs. Whitaker, and Lyakhovich vs. Brewster and many others obviously were entertaining.

    Wlad's brutal KOs of Barrett, Bostice, Brock, McCline, Byrd etc were very much worth watching IMO!! :thumbsup

    And now we have Povetkin, one of the most exciting heavyweights to come along in years! He throws 70 to 90 punches per round. Who would you sooner see, Eddie Chambers with his "ear-muff" defensive style, or Povetkin?
     
  7. bumdujour

    bumdujour Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,990
    18
    Jul 29, 2007

    What is strange about it???

    To sum up my points:

    a) boxing lives of great/memorable fights

    b)such fights have been fought by far the largest degree LATIN and US fighters

    c) the eastern euro style is not really made to provide the excitement that the style of americans/latins can provide. (not saying it is not effective.....cause it is)

    d) so with the eastern euros taking over (and with this the eastern euro style)..............will this lead to less memorable fights taking place??
     
  8. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    17,407
    8
    Oct 8, 2007
    I dont know, aside from Wlad the talent level is extremely low at the top level. Chagaev, who I like, has ducked Iggy, and just fought a lame match against Skelton, Maskaev, has not fought anyone in nearly a year and hasn't fought a significant fight since Rahman in the summer of 06, Iggy, his best wins are over Briggs, over an asthmatic body builder and a mid 40s Holyfield, he also has a draw over a guy Wlad blew out with strictly his left hand in the 2nd round of there fight last year.

    The Euro's not only postpone and cancel too many fights, but they come of as extremely boring to the American people, in and outside of the ring, which is a big part of the reason the Heavyweight division is srtuggling popularity wise in the United States.
     
  9. PolishPummler

    PolishPummler Obsessed with Boxing banned

    19,752
    4
    Oct 15, 2005
    No it leads to more dominant performances.

    The Euro's have 100 years of making up to do...this would have alot to do with it.
     
  10. bumdujour

    bumdujour Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,990
    18
    Jul 29, 2007
    you dont think that the mentioned "eastern euro style" has alot to do with it??

    as i said, im not talking about fighters like adamek or golota. they had american trainers and do not fight in that manner.

    i referr to chagaev or dzinziruk. or denis inkin etc.
     
  11. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

    34,525
    7
    Mar 10, 2007
    Bollocks!

    Povetkin! Wasn't he exciting? Diaconu v. Hoye! Very memorable - look how much they're hyping the guy! etc. etc.
     
  12. PolishPummler

    PolishPummler Obsessed with Boxing banned

    19,752
    4
    Oct 15, 2005
    BTW smart guy...you listed Graciano vs Zale as a Historic fight.

    Anthony Florian Zaleski was a Pole.But of course you would say that it was Graciano who made the fight exciting.
     
  13. bumdujour

    bumdujour Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,990
    18
    Jul 29, 2007
    sure, they were solid. but not exactly say bika vs codrington, now was it??

    and have you seen chagaev vs skelton.
     
  14. PolishPummler

    PolishPummler Obsessed with Boxing banned

    19,752
    4
    Oct 15, 2005
    Bika aint American and the American got KTFO.So much for standing and trying to trade.

    I got a question for you...can you name a punch drunk Euro fighter?
     
  15. bumdujour

    bumdujour Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,990
    18
    Jul 29, 2007

    of course you are right. gary indina is just outside of warsaw:rofl

    and of course zale flew over to learn that "eastern euro style" he fought in:lol:

    yes, smart indeed you are:good