I find it interesting that Mayweather, a former p4p king came out of retirement supposedly to regain such status and snatch it from Pacquiao is putting out stern demands that isn't gonna help that cause, e.g. the recent purse split statement. It seems he wants the title back even if it comes to not fighting MP, because Team Pac won't budge. Is that even possible? Can Floyd actually be p4p king again if he doesn't face and beat Pac? How? And what about his legacy?
sure he can. If Pac loses or if Floyd puts together a string of impressive victories. For example, everyone expects Maywaeather to beat Mosley, but noone expects Mayweather to lay a beatdown on him and stop him. If he can do that, he will already be that much closer to the p4p throne. If he can then put together another performance that surpasses expectations, while Pacquiao underwhelms a little, he can get that kind of recognition. In terms of overall legacy its hard to see how Floyd will surpass Pac, even if they fight and PBF wins. The foundation of Pac's resume which is titles at 112 and 122 followed by wins over Barrera, Morales, and Marquez at feather and superfeather is really ****ing solid. Especially considering the dominance of some of those wins. That said nothing is impossible we'll just have to see what Floyd can do in the ring.
When Mayweather's achivements and resume become clearly better than Pacquaio's, then he becomes the P4P King, but they aren't, and it isn't, so he's not.
LOL. Before teh poll I have presumed Pac will beat Clottey and that Floyd will win over Mosley also. I was thinking whether history will judge MP not taking the drug test enough reason to delegate p4p king status to Floyd by default. From the current standpoint unless things change they will never meet. So if they both campaigned well we have 2 arguably p4p king. In that scenario who will history favor? History I believe always favor the good guys and the guy with the heart that epitomizes the sport. So I think history will favor Pac.
You can't really say that in a p4p sense. What if the #1 was a HW and the #2 a FLY, would he still have to beat him?
This is the important point, Mayweather is facing the P4P#3 where as Clottey isn't even in the top 10.
P4P all he has to do is beat Mosley and PW or someone at welter or higher who is a challenge...he doesnt need so much as some others seem to believe.....head to head Floyd whoops his ass anyway. i find it funny as to how its ok for Pac to turn Mosley down but yet when Floyd wanted a fight with a younger Sugar who turned Floyd down gets flack because he turned an older Mosley down. But wait Floyd and Sugar Man are still going to fight...when Pac dodged him as well as Floyd.....but yet he is pound for pound King now but has made all his fighters come down except 1 out of the three fights. If you can fight pound for pound you move up and fight not move up then ask for a damn catchweight that best suits you. Floyd moved up faced solid comp and faced them at their own weight....accept two in Hatton and i agree Marquez was very wrong and i too felt that match was a terrible decision. However i cant see how you claim this man is the P4P KING when all he has done is make the best fighters come down and still run from the man who is drooling to fight him again...(Marquez). Yet Floyd rematches his toughest fight immediately and then fights the man who everyone seem to think he was running from....what the fukk.
Obviously he can be p4p #1 again without beating pac because he can fight and beat better opponents than what Pac does. For a start he's fighting a better opponent in Mosely than Clottey.
If he beats Mosley and goes on to beat Paul Williams at 154 then his achievements would be ahead or, at the very least, on par with Pacs. But who knows what Pac will do. he could beat Bradley or, if he was feeling crazy enough, go up to 154 and take a belt up there. If he does do that, he will be leaving Floyd in the dust once again. No point speculating though, who knows what the future holds.
Floyd is much bigger than Pac. Pac is not a natural welter weight and Floyd is. So Pac beating the best in welter weight is like Floyd beating the best in light middle. You don't seem to take this into account when comparing their accomplishments.
Floyds an absolute geebones. But yea you gotta beat the man thats knockin out everyone else. We all thought Cotto was gonna be the one to smash pac but then look what happened. Since that, Pacs a challenge to Floyd. One he must defeat post haste to secure superiority.