The Rocky Marciano versus Trevor Berbick

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The Rocky Marciano versus Trevor Berbick

  1. The ROCK by KO

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  2. The ROCK by Dec

    6 vote(s)
    14.6%

  3. The BERBICK by KO

    6 vote(s)
    14.6%

  4. The BERBICK by Dec

    2 vote(s)
    4.9%
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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Berbick is two levels above Firpo. Please.

    In regards to your other point, to what degree is Marciano's great estimation effected by his ethnicity? Please say, none whatsoever, that his appraisal as a superhuman comes from unsullied, objective analysis.
     
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  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Marciano obviously but I will certainly give Berbick more credibility for a good fight than Snipes (even though he lost to Snipes). The future crazy-man and convicted ****** was big, strong, durable, and game. Would be a hell of a fight.
     
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  3. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I always thought he looked bulkier than Tyson in their fight. Strange, considering his weight was stretched over considerably greater height.
     
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  4. unitas

    unitas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    rocky outworks him for a UD.
     
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  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    "Or a 6'2" 215bs fighter who wasnt 37 or a third rater?"

    None qualify under the criteria I gave.Wilson was a third rater and by that time so was Shkor who was having his last fight .Jackson? no point in discussing.
     
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  6. mcvey

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  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Mike McCallum,Bunny Sterling.
     
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  8. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Berbick wasn't even that lean, so it's truly strange. Tyson's bone structure looks a little more dense I guess
     
    The Undefeated Lachbuster, Nov 9, 2018
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  9. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Marciano had 15 1/2 inch biceps (1/2" under mine) according to his TOTT with Archie Moore, so you must've been impressive in your day

    https://ibb.co/gAYayV

    Not only did Marciano have decent sized arms for someone who never participated in weight lifting, but his forearms were ridiculous
     
    The Undefeated Lachbuster, Nov 9, 2018
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  10. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Since you continually degrade white fighters as honkeys, pasty, and use their skin color as a degradation, maybe you should tell us.
     
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  11. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Nice deflection.

    Now, tell me if you think Rocky's estimation is the result of his ethnicity and the like ethnicity of the majority who praise him so much.
     
    Seamus, Nov 9, 2018
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  12. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I degrade honkeys like Marciano by ranking them the best head to head under 200 pounds (tho this is wavering a bit).

    I degrade honkeys like Waldo by ranking him Top Ten All Time heavyweight.

    I degrade Maske.

    See, some of my best friends are honkeys.
     
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  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I can think of one Jamaican that Marciano would have knocked senseless. He's about yea high, wore dreadlocks sometimes, first name started with an L and the last 4 letters of his last name was ewis
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Nov 9, 2018
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  14. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    H2H or Greatness?

    Lmao unless your name is Joe Louis then you aren't beating Marciano as a sub 200lbs fighter
     
    The Undefeated Lachbuster, Nov 9, 2018
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  15. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Overall, with both those elements factored and others.



    Holyfield, Dempsey and perhaps Usyk (time will tell) are in the discussion.
     
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