The Rocky Marciano versus Trevor Berbick

Even if he were Asian, Arab, or (non-white) Latino? This is a sincere question.

 

Every time, every single time someone accuses Marciano fans of being white guys supporting the white guy, or however you want to say it, they are projecting their own racism. Every time.

And you really need to go back and look at some of the posts that have been made about Marciano and his fans, because a few of the haters, who at least have some balls, make no bones about what they are saying and why.

 

You have no basis whatsoever for accusing anyone of projecting their own racism, let alone every single person who makes such an accusation. Zero. And your take is completely ahistorical. Pure wishful thinking. If you read through the threads, people like Mcvey and I have been outspoken in taking issue with Marciano’s over-zealous fanboys and not the man himself. The idea that we’re secretly racist against white people(??) is outrageous. There have been one or two cranks (Black Hercules) but it’s self-serving and dishonest to lump everyone else in together.

 

Please. If you really had any concern about this, you would be chastising those who attack his fans for supporting him because he is white. You would be telling them that they "have no basis." I think I have struck a nerve, and it shows.

 

Ha. Should be pretty clear to anyone reading that I'm the one who struck the nerve. Projecting much?

 

Racist, heal thyself:

 

Not a hater or racist just wrong in your analyses. Something many modernists cant seem to wrap their heads around.

 

I think the competition in Marciano's era is comparable to that in other eras prior to the 1980s.

He would be too small to compete today at heavyweight but the same is probably true for Ali, Holmes, Dempsey, Louis, etc.

 

Picking him to beat Lewis or Wladimir Klitschko or Tyson is probably unrealistic but I don't see many people on this forum picking him to win these fights. I think its conceivable he could have beaten someone like Berbick though.

Heavyweights today are bigger than during Holyfield's era but that doesn't mean it is necessarily crazy to pick Holyfield over Adam Kownacki.

 

As a black man, I highly respect Marciano and his career. On the right night, I feel he'd have what it takes to be favored over any 200 pounder and under. He wasn't the most graceful or most skilled on paper, but the man could win fights using the tools he had, even against more skillful opponent's.

 

Would have interesting to see if Berbick would have tried to box against Marciano like he did against Thomas or attempt to match strength and try to push him back like he tried against Tyson?

 

Calling Holmes a coward is absolutely absurd, and rather disgraceful imo.

 

I dont think either of his records are important TBH and I'd say that no matter who had them.

 

Sadly, some cannot seem to forgive him for that jockstrap comment.