The "Sam Peter Sucks" Express!

Yes they did. Toney leaned with his head down A LOT and Emannuel had no problems mentioning it when Maskaev was doing it. Peter's punches are wild and it's only logical they will hit behind his opponent's head when they lead with their heads down, nothing intentional there as many claim it is. No I never said that they should stand straight and take the punch, that was yet another pathetic attempt from a dumb**** like yourself to bring sarcasm and your worthless jokes into the discussion. Fact is I'm not the only one that SAW the issue wasn't from Peter only, many other officials have and they weren't Peter's cornermen either. Toney clearly did it in the first round of the rematch, he got hurt and leaned with his head down, Peter was going wild trying to floor him so the punch hits him there and is instantly warned/backed off. Wladimir would literally turn around whenever Peter got the positioning, that's a smart move but isn't legal either so Peter got pissed off and ****ing wacked him there, can't blame him. The Maskaev fight was obvious, Maskaev kept leaning with his head down upclose and eventually got hit there, even Emannuel described it and mentioned that such way to defend yourself is also illegal.

 

**** off. Who won the fight again? Thanks for playing'..................

 

So I guess Peter double rabbit punching Toney on the ropes was okay with you? ****in' imbecile.:huh :-(

 

Typical, once a loser always a loser. Nice way of twisting the topic into a "who won?!?!" contest jackass. I've been a Klitschko fan far before you even became one so **** off for trying to twist this into me being a hater.

 

That was intentional and he was warned about it, I'm not talking about those punches you ****ing trash bag, clearly discussing the punches that accidentally hit there. It's pretty easy to catch the intentional ones from the accidental and you seem to say that ALL of them are intentional because you're a dumb **** and always have been.

 

Getting pissed off does not justify resorting to illegal tactics. Additionally, it does not matter if Peter intends to land there or not. It is illegal either way.

See my "Sam Peter is a cheater. Proof Inside" thread for additional information :yep :yep :yep

I asked a qualified ref, who is experienced amateur boxing official with USA Boxing (14 years) and completed a yearlong professional officials` clinic with the California State Athletic Commission, this question:

QUESTION: I have a boxing question. Rabbit punches are obviously illegal but what if a fighter contorts himself in another direction or put his head down. Is it legal to hit someone in the back of the head at that point? All these Scam Cheater nuthuggers on ESB say it is.

For example, consider the Wladmir Klitschko-Sam Peter bout. Peter hit Klitschko in the back of the head several times even scoring two knockdowns in the fifth round as a direct result. Klitschko and Peter were usually engaged in clinches when this happened. What are your thoughts on this fight and the rule in general?

Thank you once again,
KobeIsGod :yep

Hi Kobe,
It is always illegal to hit a boxer in the back of the head. If a boxer turns his or her back or lowers the head in an illegal manner, then it is up to the referee to caution, warn or penalize that boxer.
The Klitschko-Peter fight featured a couple of inappropriate rulings, in my opinion. Peter should have been penalized for clubbing Klitschko in back of the head, not rewarded with knockdowns.

I hope this helps, Kobe.
Thanks again for writing!

 

The reason why I got pissed off doesn't involve you or many others I've maturely discussed boxing with, it's that garbage can being a complete clown and throwing insults at me for a long time, nothing else.

Now to our discussion.
Yes but did the referee warn Klitschko for turning his back numerous times?, it's not like Peter was getting enough advantages that fight and is only logical he'll get desperate when every rare advantage he gets his opponent pushes away with a simple yet ILLEGAL back turning. The referee did nothing about it a few times so it's only logical that Peter will get frustrated and nail him at the back of his head, it also has to do with psychology which, judging by the Q/A you give people above, I'm pretty sure you know well enough about in Professional boxing and Amateur boxing. The punches behind the head or at the temple when he was in a clinch with Toney/Maskaev and Klitschko are definitely intentional and illegal which he was warned about but the ones when they are at distance aren't, Peter's power punches are wide and barely accurate so it's obvious those punches might get there especially when he gets hit before his punch lands, the punch automatically twists and either hits nothing or somewhere illegal and we both know that Peter isn't too difficult to hit. Even as an amateur many of Peter's punches were wild and open, except for his straight punches of course but the hooks were always wide as they have always been in Peter's career. Don't really think he intends to do them, the rabbit ones are intended and illegal no doubt but the wild punches that hit his opponents behind the head aren't planned to get there and if you notice the positioning of his opponents when he throws those punches in slow motion you'll realise that the punch is clearly going for the temple of the chin but as his opponents lean forward they hit the back of the head. Same case can be made for Holyfield and his headbutts but that's a total different discussion.

 

I wasn't referring to your anger with RUSKULL but to Peter's anger causing him to foul

Yes, Newman should have told Klit not turn his head at times but rabbit punches are a little more dangerous and can impact a fight more. I dont think Peter intends to do it most of the time but he just gets so sloppy at times. a good ref would establish authority right away. ever since that fight, refs continue to warn him during fights but don't penalize him. im not sure what's going with that.

today's refs are just way too inconsistent. can u imagine if Cortez reffed one of peter's fights? i'd bet everything i have on a dq :rofl

then u got refs like newman who let everything go

 

Sorry got it wrong there.

Yeah the refs are either too emotional these days or just complete crap. Rabbit punches are definitely too dangerous and CAN change the course of the fight, just like headbutts could, in that fight both should've been warned but a point deduction for Peter would've been better since it started getting out of hand at the end, also Klitschko's holding was getting out of hand but still ignored, so in the end it's a far thing both used some illegal tactics at times and the winner took it fair and square.

About refs, the Cortez case was just PATHETIC, that DQ was unbelievable, I was just confused during the fight watching and thinking what could happen, I thought they were going to give Soto the victory then it was the opposite. I like Cortez but man that was crap. atsch No one beats the ref of Danny's recent fight though.

 

I have no idea why anyone would defend Peter in this argument...he is the most overrated boxer in the Heavyweight division. He has no skill, almost lost to a fat, shot James Toney on their first meeting. Two of the Klitschko knock downs were bogus and obviously pushes...and anyone that takes pride out of beating an old, washed up Oleg Maskaev, is really reaching for something to be proud of. He refuses to take a tune up fight before the Vitali fight simply for the fear of losing. When is the last time he has beaten a top 10 heavy? When is the last time he knocked out anyone besides an over the hill big O? He can't even beat Robert Hawkins decisively!! He wouldn't last two rounds with Shannon Briggs, Sultan Ibragimov, Niko Valuev, or David Haye. This guy is a joke, or should we start calling him the Nigerian Tye Fields?

 

Peters skills got better, but his best punch is the rabbit punch. But he is not overrated, otherwise McCline would have won the fight. Peter really showed his heart in this fight.
Youre right when you say, that Briggs would k.o. him,

 

This just in. Scam Cheater still sucks and Punisher and FourtyOunce are still pissed.

 

No his is the most underrated boxer in the heavy weight divison. He has no skill??? you don't outbox james toney with NO Skill.So you would not be proud to beat Oleg Maskaev for a world title belt????He refuses to take a tuneup fight??????? He is the one that asked for one!!!!!!!! He did not have to take a tuneup fight or ask for one,, He did not have to fight McCline but he did! You are the joke with the **** your saying,, your just a hater that is just saying **** for the sake of putting down peter. Nigerian tye fields???? NIce try on trying to be funny,,,,,, FAILED!

 

This just in.... Samuel Peter is the WBC champion of the world.... FourtyOunce and Punisher are very proud of sammy!:good

 

This just in...... He beat a forty year old man with a glass jaw for it.