the Saudi-TKO plan to dominate boxing by Thomas Hauser

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Diagoras, Sep 22, 2025 at 3:46 AM.


  1. Diagoras

    Diagoras Active Member Full Member

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    This reminds me of his talk about Itauma vs Usyk, a true wtf moment at this stage of Itauma's career
     
  2. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Good thing is this will never work. The IBC with Norris tried back in the day with the backing of the entire mob, actual high level political connections and straightforward violence and it still failed. Saudi as a whole will pull out of Boxing once their sport washing goals are complete. This seems more like a looming individual failure for Turki only than anything else.
     
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    Diagoras Active Member Full Member

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    Hope you are right but 1 thing is different this time it seems to me, at that time US federal gov't went to SCOTUS to break up IBC

    Current admin otoh is fully aligned with TKO's plans it seems
     
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  4. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    For me the difference is the level of cunning. Turki on his own seems a bit foolish - he constantly creates money sinks with his events and doesn't really seem to understand Boxing well as a sport or an overall business entity. Without that initial Saudi state backing he wouldn't even be near the sport. Then there's Dana who nowadays just does not seem to give a ****.

    I think the decentralised global nature of modern boxing will really help here. Even if TKO somehow took hold in North America for example, no Asian boxer would sign with them over somewhere like Teiken who hold massive sway in the huge eastern market. Turki will never gain the control over the sport that he wants, especially when boxers know the potential mega purses that can be acquired in the traditional way.

    Also fair play for calling out this ****. Most of the pleb fans have just been saying, "Muh heavies! Love you Turki!" They dont giving a **** about how it affects the sport or the political agenda. Of course in a few years if Turki had his way they'd be complaining again as boxing fans usually do :lol:
     
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    Yes I think even if TKO-Saudi succeed in the West, boxing will split into 2 with the eastern market going its own way for multiple reasons

    1 is that there isn't much interest in the West for below 135 weight classes & Japan is already the money spinner there
    2nd reason is historically the UFC with its 90% market control in MMA has been unable to break into Japanese MMA scene. So no reason to think they will easily do it in a completely new sport with established players like Mr. Honda & Teiken, Ohashi etc

    I found it interesting that Matias's team chose PR & purse bid because they couldn't agree to a deal with Turki for the Dalton Smith fight. Imagine an all action guy like Matias not being amenable though I am almost certain he would have made more in Riyadh vs PR. I think Turki barging into ring after that war with Puello, interrupting him, & ordering that he will be fighting Smith next must have rubbed him the wrong way

    So its not like all boxers will just become yes men to Turki & Dana even in the West
     
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  6. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    I dont think the Saudi´s will even achieve their goals with boxing, which is to get butts in Saudi seats. The only ones who will make such travels are the Brits.
    They might as well buy up every British title fight instead of paying tens of millions for Canelo to fight Crawford in the US. I honestly think it would yield better results for them, and result in the desired tourism.
    They should go after the EBU and British title fights, and those fighters.
     
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    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Also, if Turki goes extreme and tries holding the ring belt hostage, only letting people who are aligned to TKO compete for it (which seems to be his long term plan), then people will just create a new non-TKO belt. Stuff like this has been done before in boxing history. At that point it would become incestual and no-one would consider TKO competitors the best in the world.
     
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    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Honestly, Saudi just seems to be failing at the first point everywhere. Even in the footie (soccer) there are players who signed to Saudi taking paycuts so they can compete in more respected leagues again. No one gives a **** about them tbh.
     
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  9. Diagoras

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    I just remembered how much people here whine about the dead atmosphere at Saudi events

    Dana White fanboys here are gonna miss them as the glory days when they get their wish & TKO starts putting on weekly Apex (empty warehouse saves costs) slop for boxing lmao. At the same time they will have Powerslap ad's shoved in their faces before the main event of Vergil Ortiz Jr vs Boots or something

    Hope they are looking forward to it

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