wow you are clearly an idiot and an RJJ hater. Roys taken clean shots before and not been put down, but he got caught with 2 perfect punches. BIG DEAL. Hes going to be fighting the bigger stronger Danny Green and he will come out unscathed
Being in the ring for years myself against the best amatuers and never being on the canvas once in sparring or competition I really do feel its a mental state of mind and just refusing to go down from punches, This is the only thing I can explain for me cause I'm really skinny, small neck etc, nothing that would indicate that I could take a punch, Light Welterweight I am and have took monster shots on the chin from Super Middles and such I really do believe that if a fighter gets in his head that he aint going down or getting hurt then he will be able to walk through brick walls
Ambitious, yes - but so far so good! It is, and while I have no doubt that believing that was a great boon to Jake's confidence, the fact is that there's no real control group to compare that against (ie people field-tested to be more susceptible to a knockout when tense or anxious - and from the same assailants delivering consistent comparable power). He could well have just been a physical anomaly; but whether as a defense mechanism born out of dissatisfaction with accepting that and unwillingness to fly his freak flag, or through genuine convincement of it being a state of mind, he himself might never know it. Surely a moment of self-doubt could have spelled disaster for him many times over, especially against Cerdan. Since a more robust specimen is scant to be found, it becomes difficult to know to what extent it really did aid him in staying on his feet.
The neck muscles play a part. Mercer had such a good "chin" because he trained his neck muscles with weights. Also, the jaw muscels. The old time fighters used to chew raw tree sap. but also the legs. Kick boxers (Troy Dorsey, James Warring, Vitali Klitscsko, Matt Skelton) almost always have good chins because of mighty legs.
This part is very very interesting. I'm not sure I read you right but are you saying that if a boxer had a good enough anaboilic capacity in his brain he would be able to limit/recover quicker from the affects of reduced carotid blood flow? If so thats "wicked cool":good
This study focused on cephalic trauma from a different sport but still seems relevant: http://www.knyberg-sciencewriter.com/a_files/Neck%20Strength.pdf Does that sound like the same specialized training that some boxers do?
I also beleive in how u take the punch if u can slip it or take it as your rolling can also depend on how much damage you take .
Maybe it's also part "survival of the fittest". Let's say 100 new boxers start out their careers in the amateurs, and they all develop their skills. But a majority dont have a naturally strong punch resistance. So along the way, they retire as amateurs, or become unknown pros because of their weak chin/body. But the few naturally tougher fighters of their "class" slowly come up to the top of the boxing world and become famous and renowned for their granite chin.
That's probably true for everybody, but the idea that some people are able to react to the exact same force differently is the real burning issue here; and whether that difference is something that can be acquired through training, or must be bred into you.
Then Mayorga shoots this one down. The guy was a smoker which limits the amount of oxygen to the brain even when you aren't currently smoking
Is there pretty much a consensus that increase in weight (gained properly) improves one's resistance, and inversely, that cutting down (especially improperly) degrades it?
Its interesting, if you look at most KOs its usually the angle of the punch and where it lands- temple shots are the worst- thats why Pac with his angles is so successful.
The boxing 'chin' has been considered by the British Medical Association. http://www.bma.org.uk/health_promotion_ethics/sports_exercise/boxing.jsp This section provides a particularly useful medical insight. Whereas much of the rest of a boxer's internal organs are protected by bone, fat, skin and well developed muscle, the soft tissue of the brain is protected only by the skin-covered skull and the three membranes, or meninges: •dura mater - the thick, tough layer that restricts movement of the brain within the skull, thereby reducing the chance of blood vessels stretching or breaking •arachnoid - the thin inner layer consisting of threadlike strands that attach it to the pia mater •pia mater - the thin delicate layer tightly attached to the surface of the brain. The meninges allow a certain amount of protection, and in addition to these membranes the brain is suspended in cerebrospinal fluid. Even with this protection the meninges and deeper tissues within the brain can become bruised when the head is jarred or shaken. When a boxer sustains a direct blow to the head, likened to the effect of being hit by a 12lb padded, wooden mallet travelling at 20mph, the head rotates sharply and then returns to its normal position at a much slower speed. In addition, the different densities of the various parts of the brain also move at different rates and the overall result is to create a "swirling" effect inside the brain. The resulting tissue trauma includes damage from the brain hitting the inner surface of the skull - this can be at the site of impact, or at the opposite side of the skull due to a contrecoup effect (where the brain moves within skull and impacts the opposite side to the blow); ; tears to the nerve networks in between the brains hemisphere's; tension between the brain tissue and blood vessels may cause lesions and bleeding; pressure waves created causing differences in blood pressure to various parts of the brain; and (rarely) large intracerebral clots (as sustained by the boxer, Michael Watson in September 1991). •Doctors say the risk of damage is great even though the brain is protected by the meninges, because punches cause the brain to strike the walls of the skull •Blows received during boxing cause the brain to move within the skull, damaging blood vessels, nerves and brain tissue. Acute brain haemorrhage is the leading cause of boxing deaths [Reference 10] Basically the dura matter appears to be the differentiating factor in ones ability to absorb punsishment. Presumably more and thicker dura matter is more beneficial. Anyone who wishes to read the rest of the article will notice that the BMA implies that punch resistance can be increased over time through repeated contact.