The Scott Harrison comeback

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  1. lukep1983

    lukep1983 aka skel1983 Full Member

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    **** me its 2012, the guy hasnt boxed pro for seven years half that time he has been a **** head. Harrison will not even be british level any longer I will bump this when he gets beat by a relative nobody.
     
  2. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Its been nearly 7 years since he fought. Thought it was 5. Bloody hell.
     
  3. Bingo

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    With Scott I never saw the come back as being about the money. It was more about Boxing is all he knows and having it taken was like having his life taken.

    If you watched that documentary a few years ago about his attempted come back you could see it was the sport he was after and the thought of never setting foot in a ring again looked like it would kill him.

    Im pleased for the guy to get a second chance. He still has that level of aggression and hopefully he still has the skills. But you can tell the hunger is there.
     
  4. nick6

    nick6 Active Member Full Member

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    ha you've been watching that will smith video

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfWGoLj1JCM[/ame]
     
  5. Dunky McCafferty

    Dunky McCafferty Boxing Junkie banned

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    Its good of you to put a positive spin on Scottys comeback jeff, but as you well know, its a brutal & unforgiving business. Scotty has been out of the ring for 7 years now, & even though Im his biggest nuthugger I just cant see this having a fairytale ending. However I live in hope, & if Scotty could even be a good domestic fighter on his comeback? I would be happy.
     
  6. Dunky McCafferty

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    Scotty would have stopped Chi, still makes me sad to this day that it never happened:-(
     
  7. Dunky McCafferty

    Dunky McCafferty Boxing Junkie banned

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    A prime Burns vs a prime Scott Harrison?

    Burns would win. Stand in front of Scotty & he would take you apart & finish you off, boxer (abelyan) or brawler (wayne McCullough) but the one thing Scotty couldnt handle was taller rangy fighters who fought on the outside & peppered him with the jab. Ricky is a better version of Medina & Polo, & I just cant see how any version of Scott Harrison would beat the Ricky Burns who beat Martinez & Katsidis.

    Just my thoughts.
     
  8. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    Dunky i trained both and your 100% correct
     
  9. Tolstoy

    Tolstoy dead Russian novelist Full Member

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    Good analysis. I also agree with that. Harrison would be chasing shadows all night if he fought Burns.
     
  10. Lilo

    Lilo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Michael Brodie comparison is one that I have been thinking of too. Fair play to him for giving it a go; there are so many questions that need answering.

    1. How will he take a shot now?
    2. Is it money motivated i.e. does he HAVE to come back?
    3. Which weight? And can he make it safely?
     
  11. BodyBlaster

    BodyBlaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There were two versions off Scott against that type of fighter, one who followed them around wildly winging punches and missing, and the other one, like the 2nd Medina fight who applied himself much better, working behind his jab.
    Medina, was trickier than Burns, not better, but a more difficult puzzle to solve.
    I think Katsidis is a better name than he was an opponent, based on the fact he brought such excitement and fire, which he no longer does so ferociously.
    I think Prime Harrison is much much better than the version of Katsidis Burns fought.
    I give the edge very closely to Scott, Burns has improved out of sight, but he hasnt faced a guy who could both box and brawl like Scott, and as you say, Scott's toughest fights were guys who style wise were a bit in the Ricky mould.
     
  12. Smith

    Smith Monzon-like Full Member

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    Can you break that down and elaborate why you believe that. I'm genuinely interested by the way. :good
     
  13. BodyBlaster

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    Because Burns is very what Id call orthodox, works well behind his jab, does the simple fundementals very well, and that added to his fitness are what I percieve to be his biggest assets.

    If Ricky was getting a report card, on a scale of 1-10(and I mean like 1 being Tyson quickness, 10 being Malinaggis power), he'd be 3s, 4s and 5s in that he doesnt do anything exceptionally well, but everything pretty well.

    Medina likewise on the report card, although he was more unpredictable, both in the type of performance he would give, and also his punch variety.
    He also had been in with numerous world champions, had a ton of experience and tricks to smother and survive when he was hurt.

    If you load up against Medina, your in for a long and clumsy looking night, as Naz found out, as Scott found out the first time.
    Youve got to work him into position before you can start throwing at him, or youre going to miss a lot, and become discouraged, and both Scott and Naz started following him around looking to take his head off, it didnt work.
    When Scott fought him second time, he worked him around with the jab and good footwork, he dictated to Medina where he wanted him to be, and so had much better success.

    Ricky has had 2 or 3 meaningful fights(at top level), Im guessing Medina probably had 15 or so by the time Scott fought him, so he knew all the tricks.

    Although Ricky was superb against Katsidis, and got better as the night went on, I dont think he knows, or knew enough to survive Katsidis of a few years ago, and I just think that Scott is as strong as Katsidis, and a much better boxer.

    Just my opinion, and Ive no issue with anyone thinking Burns styles wrong for Scott, it is, but I think the Medina/Polo fights are possibly being given too much weight, as 2nd Medina fight he solved the puzzle, and against Polo he'd killed himself to make weight.

    With Burns, Martinez, IMO was not as good as people believed, and Katsidis has lost a bit. Both excellent wins, as good as Scott's best iMO.
     
  14. BodyBlaster

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    Or another way to put it, do you think Burns would have lasted 10 or 11 with Naz? I certainly dont, but Medina was one tricky opponent for him
     
  15. billy nelson

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    Rickys speed would be Scotts undoing,mate i know Scott better than anyone other than his father and rest assured i wouldnt be a contest now,in Scotts prime it would be very good but one Ricky would have won on clearly on points