The Secret to Vitali Klitchko's success? Karate.

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by sugarngold, Sep 28, 2009.


  1. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    I am starting this thread to remind everyone that Vitali fights like a classic karateka minus the kicking of course. You have to remember that Vitali was a world champion kickboxer years before he entered the world stage of boxing.

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xivni_vitali-klitschko-vs-james-warring_sport

    He keeps his fighting measure at long range forcing his opponent to lunge to reach him - preferable for landing kicks when applicable. He even favors the karate style straight punching.

    Here are a few GIFS comparing Vitali with noted MMA karateka and UFC light heavyweight champion - Lyoto Machida.

    (Thanks to BigBone for the Vitali/Arreola GIFS)

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  2. dabox

    dabox Active Member Full Member

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    this is not karate lol

    go watch kids learning to box in russia,
    the footwork is classic soviet school of boxing...

    the hands down, well some guys like to fight that way
    but his footwork and the different types of punches,
    just watch russia coaches teach boxing, you will see that stuff
     
  3. LONGROB

    LONGROB Guest

    Machida's hands are nothing more in these gifs than basic boxing. I see nothing there that even resembles karate.
     
  4. KOTF

    KOTF Bingooo Full Member

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    He was kickboxer so that explains his awkward style
     
  5. dabox

    dabox Active Member Full Member

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    not really because kickboxers use a tight high guard...just watch k1....
     
  6. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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  7. JERMZ BOXING

    JERMZ BOXING Mr. Know-it-all Full Member

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    wut do u mean not really...he WAS a kickboxer...
     
  8. irishny

    irishny Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Vitali is so young and skinny ion the that vid! 205 LBS!
    Must have been still in his teens,if he was fighting out of the USSR!
     
  9. dabox

    dabox Active Member Full Member

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    yes he was a kickboxer...but different type of kickboxing....he did american style

    not k1/thai style kickboxing(which are much harder by the way)

    but even in the video, you see that he holds up high not low like now
    and still has the classic bouncing in and out soviet style
     
  10. dabox

    dabox Active Member Full Member

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    and yeah he is a young kid in the video, so he has a lot of time to develop/change since then
     
  11. khal-d

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    A textbook right cross comes from the chin, to the opponent and right back to the chin. That's not the case for Vitali as
    1) Arreola is shorter, so its easier to reach his chin with the right a lil low form the chin
    2) He arm punches to gain speed, and when you want your right hand delivered ASAP you tend to drop it a bit.
    3) He was in a groove defensively and knew Arreola couldn't touch him if he was quick on the feet so having the right hand to right back to your chin for protection wasn't too important.

    Machida's straight left is timed perfectly BTW! Nice punch esp for MMA standards.

    Only relation I see is that they both switched levels in their combos, and they definitely teach switching levels in boxing gyms.

    Machida got Evans with an overhand right, Vitali's fist came from his hip. I don't see the similarities, especially considering that Machida just starting flailing the overhand right connected.
     
  12. BigBone

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    The way he slips punches with his hands (rather than blocking), and letting opponents lose balance and fall into their punches reminds me of my few wing tsun kung-fu lessons. I always thought it's coming from Vitali's martial arts background.
     
  13. lefthook31

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    The secret was starting his heavyweight career in the mid 90's and coming into form in early 2000, the worst era ever.
     
  14. coog

    coog Active Member Full Member

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    there is a difference in Muy thuy and and professional karate or kick boxing. I will say that his master of space and distance is reflective of Kick boxing
     
  15. dabox

    dabox Active Member Full Member

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    no his master of space and distance comes from soviet style boxing....

    i had trained with russian coaches, most of things taught always had to do with distance
    make the other over commit, stepping in and out....

    this has nothing to do with kick boxing...even in his kickboxing fights, he still use this in and out approach, makeing small angles....

    i had trained with russian and romanian coaches before....almost all the gif's put up were moves that they would teach....

    the first one where he jabs, then takes a little step and tries to knock arroera's left down and throws a right after that....felix savon does that move.....

    the whole high jab, then right to the body from the outside is one of the most taught things in that school of boxing,

    also throwing that half hook/half straight from the outside after takeing a step to the right is very common as well.

    watch a lot of old school soviet amauters, they often tine lean out of a punch, while takeing a little side step to the left or right....

    there is nothing exotic to me about what he does....

    i have also trained with canadian/hispanic coaches and yes it is not something they teach, but if you went and train with some russian coaches you would see this stuff is not karate lol


    what it has in common with karate is the in and out movement