The Sept 1979 Ring Welter Ratings!!!

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Browsing the 1979 September Ring Ratings , we have
    Champ
    Wilfred Benitez

    1 Jose Cuevas
    2 Ray Leonard
    3 Roberto Duran
    4 Thomas Hearns
    5 Pete Ranzany
    6 Jorgen Hansen
    7 Angel Espada
    8 Andy Price
    9 Dave Green
    10 Manuel Jiminez


    My Question .


    Has there ever been a stronger depth of talent in the top 4 contenders ?
    Obviously the talent drops off significantly after them, but still very respectable contenders in the main .

    In passing, the 175pounders were very strong too.

    Champion
    Victor Galindez

    1 Matt Franklin
    2Marvin Johnson
    3Alvaro Lopez
    4 John Conteh
    5 Mike Rossman
    6 James Scott
    7 Eddie Gregory
    8 Lotte Mwale
    9 Mustapha Wassaja
    10 Rudi Koopmans

    Happy Days, and no Ukrainian robots dominating the richest prize in sports.
    P.S. 7 of the 10 rated heavyweight contenders were from the US.:think
     
  2. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There were only so many Americans because the Eastern europeans were not allowed to compete. Ukrainian robots > American bums.
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    The Lhvy Champ was Argentinian, the Welter Champ was Puerto Rican,The Jnr Middle was Japanese,,theJnr Welter was Colombian,the Light title was vacant, no 1 contender was Venezuelan,Bantam Champ was Panamanian,Jnr Light was Purto Rican,Jnr Feather Champ was Puerto Rican,Fly Champ South Korean .

    The world hasn't got bigger.


    American bums?
    Holmes
    Shavers
    Tate
    Weaver
    Jones
    Norton
    Ledoux
    Five of the seven very solid contenders for the vacant title.
    But why am I debating with you ? You think the Wlad fight was entertaining!!!!!:patsch

    P.S. I am English.
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    That's a hell of a division. Even Green, way down the list, was a very very decent contender.
     
  5. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course it is bigger now than then. Much more connected, much more chances for fighters from 3rd world countries to break through and of course the whole former Eastbloc is can compete now.

    You call those Ukrainians robots, I call those Americans bums. Same thing, old man.

    I never wrote the Wlad fight was entertaining. I know you are English, I don“t know how that matters though.
     
  6. Senor Pepe'

    Senor Pepe' Boxing Junkie banned

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    September 1979

    * WBC Champion.........Wilfred Benitez
    * WBA Champion.........Jose 'Pipino' Cuevas

    1.....Ray Leonard
    2....Roberto Duran
    3....Thomas Hearns
    4....Pete Ranzany
    5....Joergen Hansen
    6....Angel Espada
    7....Andy Price
    8....Davey Green
    9....Manuel Jiminez

    The Ring Magazine, wasn't always on the 'ball'.

    Also, both Carlos Palomino and Harold Weston Jr. had just retired.

    Otherwise, Carlos Palomino would have been ranked #4, and Harold Weston Jr. would have been ranked #6.

    #5 Joergen Hansen, got there based upon 'one single' right hand that he landed on Davey Green,
    otherwise, he was not really a Top 10 ranked Welterweight.

    #9 Manuel 'Yuca' Jiminez 18-2-0 (11 KO's), had just lost a 10-Round (Majority Decision) to
    Ruby 'The Snake' Ortiz 20-3-3 (7 KO's) in Puerto Rico.
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    Some of the ranked WBA boys;
    * Harold Volbrecht (South Africa).......20-2-1 (4 KO's)
    * David Kambule (South Africa)..........24-1-0 (12 KO's)
    * Chris Clarke (Canada)....................19-0-0 (14 KO's)
    * Randy Shields (USA)......................33-5-1 (17 KO's)
    * Man-Deuk Lee (South Korea)...........18-2-0 (14 KO's)
    * Alfredo Ruben Lucero (Argentina).....27-3-4 (15 KO's)

    Randy Shields had just fought a 'controversial' 15-Round Decision with Pipino Cuevas
    in July 1979. Randy should have been ranked at least #5.
     
  7. Stevie G

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    It was like the heavyweight division early in the same decade. Brilliant.
     
  8. Senor Pepe'

    Senor Pepe' Boxing Junkie banned

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    NNN,

    Did 'Davey Boy' Green deserve a WBC Welterweight Title shot versus Ray Leonard on March 31, 1980.

    I believe the call was - 'he was a safe opponent'.

    Despite the 33-2-0 (26 KO's) record, the 26 1/2 year-old 'Fenland Tiger' was 'damaged goods', and everybody knew it.

    The word going around was,,,,,,,, "if you hit him, he went to sleep".
     
  9. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Underrated Champion in an underrated division......very very strong LHW days.
     
  10. Senor Pepe'

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    Mony Mony,

    "Davey Boy' Green 33-1-0 (25 KO's) was 'starched' in 3-Rounds by 36 year-old 'Dane' Joergen Hansen in June 1979.

    Joergen, at 59-13-0 (27 KO's) was a {6-1 Underdog} in that bout for the European Welterweight Championship.

    The 'veteran' Danish fighter would have been a better opponent for Ray Leonard, than 'fragile' Davey Boy Green.

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  11. Jacquot

    Jacquot Cruiserweight Paper Champ Full Member

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    Great division, great era.
     
  12. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not to sure on the actual rankings, but we had a golden era in the 90's to early 2000's.

    Tito
    ODLH
    Mosley
    Quartey
    Sweat Pea


    In the mid 2000's we had :

    Mayweather
    Cotto
    Margarito
    Mosley


    Just after Mosley battered Margo in 09 we had : (Percived as top fighters)

    Mayweather
    Pac
    Mosley
    Cotto
    Berto
     
  13. Senor Pepe'

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    Pete Ranzany

    A hell of a good welterweight, was no better than 5th in 1979.

    May have been good enough, to defeat Carlos Palomino in 1977/1978/1979.
     
  14. PowerPuncher

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    There was also Curry, Starling, Honeyghan, Breland, McCrory, Colin Jones

    It wasn't just welterweight either, pretty much most divisions were stacked silly, what an era


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  15. Senor Pepe'

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    Pre-1979

    A very tough group.

    Jose Napoles
    Armando Muniz
    John Stracey
    Clyde Gray
    Johnny Gant
    Ernie Lopez
    Hedgemon Lewis
    Roger Menetrey
    Jose Baquedano