The Shoulder Roll: Toney or Mayweather?

Toney.

Toney vs Jirov was a shoulder-roll masterpiece.

 

Toss-up but overall I have Floyd ranked higher as a defensive fighter.

 

FLoyd!

 

What's with the Toney hate? People act like he raped their little sisters. Despite his trash talking, in his prime he was a beast, still has enough accomplishments to get in HOF, and even now he's fat he still can make people miss even though he gets hit more now compared to then. Do y'all really think if Floyd became a fat ass(not happening) he would still be at least as decent as Toney is now defensively? Look at Peter-Toney fights. He's fat but still made him miss quite a bit and his workrate hurt him not his weight.

 

Lights out all the way. Toney is one of the best all time.

 

That is right. Toney uses to counter off the shoulder roll, Mayweather does not like to do it.

Toney at his best, was very difficlut to hit. He also used to duck under the left hook much more frequently than Mayweather. Nowaday, Toney is more hittable.

 

Toney... not only does he do it better, but he uses it more often as it's a big part of his defensive technique.. and he'll roll with either shoulder and fire back with either hand from a wide variety of angles. Floyd often rolls and doesn't even bother to counter.