The shoulder roll.....

james toney.

works very well because he is built like a tank. once he tucks his head, there is practcally nothing to hit.

 

plenty of fighters.

the more notable ones who used it extensively include Toney and Archie Moore

 

This thread would have got you better responses in the Classic Section!

 

Toney was not built like a tank

 

james toney used it better than floyd

shoulder roll was only part of floyds defense, floyd also used the full guard and half guard while james toney used the shoulder roll as his main defense AND his offense.

 

Depends on your definition of tank.

He has extremely big upper body and shoulders. He might not be an A1 Abrams or the leopard type but definitely, he is rounder than most boxers.

 

Because Floyd is quicker and more athletic, I'd say Toney is better technically at the shoulder roll style. Toney's combinations are so much more fluid and flowing, while FLoyd potshots more.

 

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he wasnt super trim. and always had a bit of puppy fat. but the wide shoulders big arms and big legs in comparison to others he was fighting . yeah he was much more bigger physically in comparison to other fighters

 

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One of my fav Toney vids. I think he did use the shoulder roll better than Floyd and arguably was more natural with it. This is him as a cruiserweight.

 

The better shoulder roller would be the person who get hit less using it...with = Mayweather hands down!

 

It's useless. Pac will fracture his shoulder if Floyd use this.