The Similarities Between Anthony Joshua and Primo Carnera

The stat sheet would actually indicate about a one inch difference; remember how "reach" is measured. As for the significance of the height difference, stack two apples (or similar sized objects) and position yourself so that you can just barely reach the bottom one with a jab. Now try to hit the other. That's the difference ~four inches of height makes. Not that dramatic. (It's about the same as that between Hagler and Hearns.)

Greater height also gives you a higher center of gravity, but I won't pretend to know how big a difference that makes.

 

There are clearly pro and cons, but I'd be bullshi**ing if I claimed to be confident about exactly how they weigh out.

 

Its in," Boxing's Hall Of Shame," by Thomas Myler.
I don't see beating Campolo as especially note -worthy. Carnera had 84lbs on Loughran and broke one of his toes when he stamped on his foot . I discount the Schaaf tragedy .
There is no record or even suspicion that Gains ever went into the tank for anyone.Not everyone can be bought, Leon Chevalier,and Jimmy Maloney are two that couldn't be.Roy Ace Clark had to be threatened with a gun at ringside to make him capitulate.

 

Allow me to provide a counter example. Put your fist at full extension flat on a wall. Move it up or down. Reach advantage gets amplified if your shoulder is lined up perfectly with your target. If you are punching up you lose out a bit on the overall distance your fist can cover. Basically it would be on Max to walk Wilder down, with out getting knocked out.

Baer tended to fight very upright as well, so it's not likely he'll crouch to mitigate the reach advantage like Marciano liked to do. It matters at the highest level. It's a big reason why Wilder couldn't find his jab on Fury. Why the Klitschko's were so dominant for so long even though at 6'6" with most of their opponents were in the 6'4"-6'1" range they were able to dominate long range over slightly shorter opponents.

Wilder isn't great on defense but his sheer size can mitigate a lot of that.

 

"Had to be?" "Capitulate?"

Ace Clark won eight fights out of 35. He was a perennial loser.

There were 11,000 people at the Carnera-Clark fight in Philadelphia. No doubt 99 percent of them were there to see the hometown Philly heavyweight win.

Who was the genius who was going to shoot the local heavyweight in front of 11,000 hometown witnesses?

If any boxer was threatened in Philly in 1930, it was the "foreigner" fighting the hometown Philly guy.

 

Wins against no hopers throwing fights.

But also beats Hall of Famers in legitimate fights and wins three lineal championship matches.


Primo Carnera Legend

 

Silly post,"99% of them were there to see Clark," oh get real FFS!
"Roy Ace Clark chose to ignore his corners instructions and was giving Carnera all kinds of problems for five rounds"Threatened in between the 5th and 6th rds he took the fiull count 30 seconds into the 6th.The idea of showing Clark a gun would be to let him know what he had to expect later should he continue to be ambitious.I should have thought that was obvious to anyone with even half a brain.

 

Aaaah Bless!

 

"Ambitious?"

I think anyone with "half a brain" would realize you didn't need to show a gun to "Ambitious" Ace Clark in order to beat him.

As everyone who beat him proved.

 

Read the reports of the fight.

 

Did they report in the Philadelphia newspapers that his own corner pulled out a gun between rounds and threatened to murder him if he didn't stop trying to win?

Jesus. Don't be a clown.

Primo Carnera scored 71 KOs. Roy Clark won 8 out of 35 fights.

 

Carnera scored all those ko's for a 70% record yet isn't in the top 100 punchers list, or the HOF?
Leon Chevalier lost almost as many as he won yet he was pulled out of a fight he was holding his own in against Carnera in his home state of California.

• One of Chevalier's seconds, Bob Perry, threw in the towel, although it appeared to all that the boxer was in no worse condition than Carnera. "A bitter demonstration followed. Half a dozen fans attacked Perry, striking and kicking him. In the melee he suffered a cut under the eye. Fellow countrymen of Carnera's stood on chairs and shouted 'fake' and urged the huge Italian be made to fight over again." (AP) The boxing commission started an immediate investigation. Mrs. Chevalier told them her husband had been approached earlier to agree to a "fake fight," but that he had directed all business to his manager, Tim McGrath. McGrath declared he had no knowledge that Perry was going to throw in the towel, and that the towel should not have been thrown in. Carnera's purse was withheld.

Wire Service Report April 15, 1930:[1]

The following is courtesy of the April 2010 Boxing Bulletin Web page: [2]

• "Those sitting in Chevalier�s corner claim that Perry, the second, wanted to throw the towel in as early as the second round when Chevalier was out-boxing the giant but was deterred by a fan who threatened to shoot him if he stopped the fight. But in the sixth, when the self appointed guardian of the second was yelling for the Negro to win the fight, Perry fired the towel over the ropes. When the irate fan realized what had happened he started a two fisted attack on Perry and gave him a beating." � Bob Shand, Oakland Tribune
• Chevalier had taken a "9" count after being shoved to the canvas in the sixth round, but had gone on the attack after rising and was looking more comfortable than Carnera when Perry made his move. The fighter�s manager Tim McGrath was working as chief second and told the press that Perry, who had been hired just that day, had no authority to act in such a manner. After the bout, it was reported that earlier in the day Perry and Bob Laga, also hired that day to work as a second for Chevalier, had been a guest of Carnera�s west coast manager Frank Churchill, at the Whitecomb hotel in San Francisco. Strangely, Churchill seated himself in Chevalier�s corner for the bout, explaining afterward that he could not find a chair by Carnera�s corner.
• Chevalier was cleared by the commission of any wrong doing and declared "an innocent victim of the entire situation."

Wake up and smell the coffee FFS!