The Single Most Overrated Fighter...

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  1. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Since you wrote this every other thread...you just might be (are) wrong!!!

    No way is Tyson top 10...15 yes! he was great, but your going overboard!!!!
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Really? I used to have him at 11, i'll admit, but I just couldn't defend it...would love to see your 10.


    I have him at 9.
     
  3. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    no he not.

    Who in ur opinion outboxed Foreman during his prime (he was not in his prime vs Young btw). Even Ali could not avoid his punches, and Ali had an extremely tough chin so he survided, many others would not.
     
  4. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    Stylistically speaking Liston and Lewis would've blasted Frazier out very early on too (certainly the '73 version). Tyson would have a great chance too providing he lands first.

    Frazier certainly wasn't shot at that stage, but nonetheless had noticeably lost that extra edge post '71 which had made him ultra special. He was still a fine fighter of course but in any sense Foreman was a stylistic Mount Everest for him to climb. :good
     
  5. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    Peak for peak I'd favour Ali, Liston, Lewis, Holmes, Tyson and Johnson (slightly) all to beat Foreman.
     
  6. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What is your criteria for ranking fighters?

    And based on that criteria what 10 fighters could you possibly have in front of Tyson?
     
  7. Holmes' Jab

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    #7 is about right for Tyson overall. :good
     
  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I think the problem with Foreman is he looks a bit like he could be outpunched by a great puncher (like Lyle, but a great puncher) and outboxed by a great boxer (i struggle to imagine him beating a Holmes or a Lewis) and he can clearly be out-thought and out-generaled, as we saw in the case of Ali.

    He's got good raw, but he looks awful, pushing, reaching. Wide punches, no plan B.

    Dempsey ko4 Foreman.
     
  9. Jase2483

    Jase2483 Everyday I'm Hustlin' Full Member

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    ricky hatton

    by a mile
     
  10. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    I do think that Foreman would beat Dempsey, though (and Marciano too). Both would be early-mid round stoppages. Just too big, powerful and strong for each of 'em.
     
  11. Holmes' Jab

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    I'm with you here. :good
     
  12. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If you want to discuss top 10 ATG's start a thread...but i will give a top 15 just because!

    1 Ali
    2 Holmes
    3 Louis
    4 Marciano
    5 Foreman
    6 Dempsey
    7 Frazier
    8 lewis
    9 Liston
    10 Holyfield
    11 johnson
    12 Tyson
    13 Bowe
    14 jeffries
    15 Patterson
     
  13. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Foreman would smash Dempsey (who's the answer to this thread but that was topo obvious).
     
  14. abraq

    abraq Active Member Full Member

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    How can he be one of the "obvious answers". He is rated by most knowledgeable critics as "the greatest". He fought everybody. He has got a great record. How can anybody say that he is overrated?

    Yes, he was human.
     
  15. Jase2483

    Jase2483 Everyday I'm Hustlin' Full Member

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    obviously top 15 HW's correct?