The Slow Death of PBC

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Badbot, Nov 24, 2024.


  1. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Protected boxers cashingout
     
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  2. Ol' Bub

    Ol' Bub Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bounce TV...I haven't heard that name in years
     
  3. Boxing_Fan101

    Boxing_Fan101 Undisputed Available bookgoodies.com/a/1068623705 Full Member

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    PBC could have built something in the US similar to Matchroom in the UK they had a great stable, great platform but for whatever reason just badly managed the everything.

    Refusing to work with other promotional companies and keeping all their fighters in house really put fans off then combine this with some great fighters not staying active and fighting once a year or sometimes once in two years just stifled any momentum

    Frankly they only have themselves to blame but I imagine th Al Haymon and co all made some good coin while the gravy train ran
     
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  4. Quickeyg

    Quickeyg Really really really don't care. Full Member

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    PBC = Megalopolis
     
  5. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    I actually really liked their Bounce and Spike cards, there was a certain charm to them. And the matchmaking was solid.
     
  6. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    It's hardly trendy

    Its fans telling it how it is as of today

    I ain't got loyalty for any company
    They are all here to entice you to give them money which is fine as its how business works
    But if they ain't doing anything, I'll look for the better deal

    And that's not gonna be on Amazon Prime
     
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  7. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    I’m speaking more to some comments I’ve seen making it out like PBC has never done anything good.

    I agree with your points.
     
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  8. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Had high hopes for them when they started. Had a great stable, but NOT putting the right fights together, not forcing top guys to face one another, they shot themselves in the foot. LOTS of wasted potential with some of their fighters.
     
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  9. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    I for one enjoyed PBC a fair bit in the early years. There were some excellent events they put on and a lot of good fights were made, but as the years rolled on, the quality and quantity dropped.
    I will never forgive them for killing ESPN FNF. That was a travesty, and a big loss for American boxing. But the worst came when they signed a BS deal with SHO and Fox, which meant that SHO was simply used as a piggy bank to keep their guys busy, when they could not get them fights on Fox.
    Espinoza absolutely killed SHO boxing with that deal, and it´s another thing I won´t forgive PBC.

    In recent years PBC has figured out the ticket selling aspect tho. They have found a home in Vegas and are making an absolute killing at the box office there. Their big events are actually big events. But just recently I noticed how much they had declined in quantity over the last couple of years.

    What a shame, because in the end they killed two beloved boxing programs and killed many more careers with inactivity and bad matchmaking.
     
  10. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    but things do move on and return in different ways. DAZN is often putting out multiple events in a single weekend now. I used to gripe at them but man they’ve been giving it a go. And after the events, they’re good at putting up each fight separately, highlights from each fight, and highlights from the event overall.

    I really hope their financials are working out. Because they’re giving it as solid a go as possible at bringing combat sports to fans to watch regularly.
     
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  11. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    I absolutely love the fact that they expanded their broadcasting to various smaller shows across the world. DAZN failed at putting on quality boxing on the regular, so they turned to quantity, and it works! They have found quality in quantity.
    The only problem with the site is accessing the fight library; it´s a cluster****. Kinda hard to find past fights on their own, or even past events for that matter.
     
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  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    PBC was staging 40+ and 50+ boxing cards a year for a while there and some here and elsewhere were still complaining the top guys weren't fighting enough, complained they were overpaying and bashing everything they did.

    The Sheik and his Riyadh Season is supposedly the greatest thing ever, he's radically overpaying, and he will stage 5 boxing cards in 2024.

    Not quite the same as 50+ shows a year.

    And are fighters BUSIER now that PBC isn't active?

    People complained a lot for years that PBC was monopolizing the time slots. But now that PBC isn't monopolizing the time or buying time on networks, there isn't exactly a line of boxing promoters or fighters jumping in to fill the void they left behind.

    Networks that want to air boxing can't even get promoters to deliver regularly.

    Peacock/NBC (in the US) even signed a deal last year with BOXXER to air their cards. And last I checked they only delivered six cards this entire year.

    Six isn't the same as 50+ cards.
     
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  13. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yeah they definitely need to clean up the back catalogue. I do like their classic fights channel though, where they show full events from the 80s-90s in good quality.

    aa for quality vs. quantity, they’ve now done two fights with Bam Rodriguez as a headliner. That’s as quality as it gets. Just a matter of time until he ends up on the Saudi cards instead though. He’s too good and too fun to watch to not.
     
  14. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    All of their fighters have been hugely inactive and managed horribly.
     
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  15. Izakaya

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    Well, they got February 1st PPV lined up with Benavides vs Morrell and Figueroa vs Fulton 2 but the winner probably won't fight until around September at the absolute earliest IF they fight twice in 2025.
    They are trying to line up the March 1st PPV with Tank vs Roach *blegh*. Ditto above.

    Makes me wonder who they are going to line up to headline for April/May/June/July? Tszyu lost twice in a row including very badly on his last fight so he probably can't headline, and Canelo's 3 fight contract is over now.
     
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