The Small Reason Why Manny Pacquiao May Beat Floyd Mayweather

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  1. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    No point in educating these dudes. They are getting all their opinions based off the fact that they are learning boxing from Fight Night Round4 instead of stepping foot in a gym.
     
  2. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    See this is why that won't work for more than 2 rounds
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkCXgd4Dj2I[/ame]
     
  3. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    What would make you believe this "hypothetical blueprint", that has been tried literally dozens of times, by great...even HOF level fighters, would be anymore successful now than it has been any of the other times? If you want to play the "It wasn't done by Manny" card...that's fine, I just have more respect for the Diego Corrales, JMM, ODLH, Ricky Hatton, SSM, JCC's of the world. Manny is better than those guys and that's not the point, I'm simply saying Manny isn't the first guy to go into a PBF fight with this idea, and he's not the first great fighter to go into a PBF fight with this idea. I would say at a minimum it may be wise to have a back up plan.
     
  4. el mosquito

    el mosquito Boxing Addict banned

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    this is why i want to see this fight. Floyd couldn't fight manny the way he fought baldomir or dela hoya. he's gonna have to dig into his pocket and see what else he's got. he's gonna have to fight him, defense simply won't work the way they used to against lesser offensive fighters. I may not agree with your take on who's better on the inside or offensively but i see where you're coming from. I can even see a scenario where pac would have to counter floyd as floyd moves forward pressing the action
     
  5. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    The sad part of this post, is that too few will actually watch it, really good video and pretty much captures the brilliance of PBF.
     
  6. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    yeah man they'll just look at the picture on it and say Mosley was old or some trash :-(
     
  7. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    First and foremost, I appreciate the sensible/intelligent post, thank you for that.

    While I say PBF has a distinct advantage inside, I would also say that as it stands right now and based on what I see from these two guys, that Manny very well may have the edge on the outside. Some may question my judgment and that's cool, but Manny if allowed to operate freely on the outside would utilize his foot and hand speed to create problems for any fighter, to include PBF. Not saying PBF couldn't win the fight on the outside, but it would be much more difficult and gives Pac his best chance to win.
     
  8. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Of course I understand that. The question is why couldn't Floyd do that to Oscar? You can't compare Chavez to Pac when simply throwing in volume. Totally different animal. Pac's already taken hard shots from hard hitters Cotto and Margarito and he kept on coming. What could Floyd's brittle hands possibly do to back Manny up? His jab? Hard straight right? That worked with a straight forward Hatton, not Pac who's going to be coming in different angles and throwing fast punches from angles Floyd has never seen. The jab also worked against a flat footed Marquez who was never comfortable initializing offense. Not the case with Manny. The truth is both fighters have never seen each other's style. To simply assume Floyd can adjust is stupid. Floyd beat Oscar because Oscar got tired and mounted an attack only once per round in the last 4 rounds. Oscar had close to 20 pounds on Floyd, which meant absolutely nothing since Oscar tried to beat Floyd with speed and volume, til his stamina failed him. You can bet your house that won't happen with Pac.
     
  9. causality

    causality Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd has been fighting 40 year olds lately. You can't compare what he is doing with Mosley and assume he can do it with Pac. He can't be an aggressor in any stage of the fight. He will run for dear life just like Cotto did at the latter stages of the fight.
     
  10. exumspate

    exumspate Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't know for sure, it's just my opinion, that's why I want to see the fight...You bring up some excellent points, especially about floyd being better off on the inside vs Manny...It's that issue that makes me think floyd will have trouble keeping it up for 12 rounds...His best defense truly lies in his reflexes but, it's having to keep up that kind of a defense the entire fight that brings me to my opinion stated above...

    As far as floyd being aggressive, I think that's his ticket to winning this fight but, regardless of anyone elses opinions on the matter, my opinion is that floyd is somewhat afraid of Pac...If it were not for that belief, I might have a different opinion...

    Excellent questions, the only way to truly have them answered is for them to fight...
     
  11. DobyZhee

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    karceno has spoken the truth.
     
  12. Farmboxer

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    Pac will knock Void out, but who will drag Void into a ring?
     
  13. Gander Tasco

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    Manny is too much for Floyd. It's not rocket science. he does to much and he's too dynamic offensively. Floyd is definitely a smarter, better boxer but he would get overwhelmed. Floyd works best in a controlled situation. With manny he would be a constantly reacting to an onslaught, and Floyd doesn't have the chin, punch resistance or the mentality to deal with a situation like that. His instincts are to shell up and s avoid taking punishment. With manny your gonna have to take some and be ready to gain his respect. Floyd isn't that kind of fighter plain and simple. If you think he's just gonna outbox and counter manny all night that's not gonna happen. Manny comes at you with too much and he's too dynamic with his offense. Plus he's a southpaw. It's just a bad style matchup for Floyd.
     
  14. bollocks

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    He wasn't getting frustrated thinking "****, I'm missing a lot". He's more like, "c'mon man, I came here to fight, why are you running?"

    Big difference...
     
  15. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Sounds like it was written by some NOOB just acquianting themselves with the technical/tactical elements in boxing. Stay on the porch nerd.