The Soft Body Thread

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  1. Butch Coolidge

    Butch Coolidge Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do fighters have to look like physical fitness models in order to be good or can they look like Goyo Vargas, Roberto Duran, Ray Mercer, Sultan Ibragimov to be effective?

    Gil Clancy said that old time trainers used to say the guys with the kind of soft body look could actually take much more punishment to the body than the 6 pack abs guys.
     
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  2. Mr Logic

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    Extra padding I say haha.
    I've been ripped before but I've been fitter carrying extra fat
     
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  3. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    99% of soft body fighters are average to cannonfodder

    there are always exceptions but not many

    yes at the heavier weights they seem to be able to take body shots better / but carrying around all the lard seems to also make them slow .

    tony tubbs thinking back is the quickest fat man i can think off /he was a decent figther.
     
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    Roberto Duran is a big exception, Muhammad Ali is a big exception Possibly the greatest fighters of all time. Proves that theory wrong
     
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  5. Butch Coolidge

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    James Toney...and of course that pugilist specialist Tony Galento.
     
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    2TON Tony Galento

    Tony Tubbs

    The White buffalo - Francois Botha

    Tyson Fury - undefeated Lineal Champion of the WORLD (still)

    Snot nose De Gale
     
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    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    you beleive that roberto duran and ali were fat and soft ?
    based on what ?
     
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    Baby Bull Juan Diaz had a hell of a motor on him despite his midsection lacking any type of definition.
     
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  9. Butch Coolidge

    Butch Coolidge Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not necessarily fat, just not that chiseled six pack abs. I wouldn't say Ibragimov was fat either but he wouldn't turn any of the girls' heads walking down the beach if you know what I mean.
     
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  10. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    duran was cut albeit he fought to 49 years of age.

    ali was also fit until his last few fights.

    granted they were not specimens but my definition of soft is being able to see fat rolls
     
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  11. jyeahfosho

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    Ali used to lift his arms in the air and let his sparring partners throw their hardest shots at his body for 10- 20 secs at a time.
     
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  12. Mr Logic

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    They weren't ripped. They didn't have really low body fat percentages like for instance rigo and Loma today
     
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    Nothing wrong with not being a ripped Adonis with chiseled abs, boxers are not fitness models. Being a little soft is fine but anymore than that then it will usually effect conditioning which may not be detrimental most of the time but if you're pushed during a fight that lack of conditioning suddenly then becomes a big issue.

    Mercer for example rarely if ever fought for the full 3 mins of a round. His work rate was often poor and he gassed so badly vs Ferguson he infamously tried to bribe him mid fight.
     
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  14. Mr Logic

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    What do you think of Andy Ruiz jr? He has great stamina for someone with rolls
     
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  15. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    ok then just a matter of body types.
    when i say soft i mean rolls of fat you can see on the sides of there back and belly
     
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