The Standing 8 Count: Is there a place for it in British Boxing

low it fam! its karma for da mchpilbin fight enzo knows how man was feeling now!

 

Rarely happens though. The corner are usually caught up in the action as well. If the ref is relying on the corner to make the call then he shouldn't be in there doing the job.

 

What criteria do you introduce for the standing eight?

That's the issue. A knockdown is pretty clear cut. Did a legal, scoring punch put them down? Yes? That's a knockdown.

And it would just confuse when a fighter should be stopped, because the referee would have another tool to exhaust before stopping the fight.

As Gaz says, it's just creating a rule to offset bad refereeing (wefeweeing) rather than getting rid of bad referees or retraining sloppy ones.

 

These are the reasons why I don't like it. I also think it would make refs more trigger happy, stepping in all the time.

 

im on dat wave skillz!

 

I think it would definitely lead to fighters taking more punishment. If you have to have the referee saving you, you're in no position to carry on.

 

I would say so, but when you look at the indecisiveness last night, thats what the problem was, he got half way and started having second thoughts, it was all over his face, he didn't know what to do.

That was the problem last night, even if there was a standing 8 count, would IJL have given it yesterday? I really don't know.

It's hopeless refs that are the problem, not the rules.

I'd say bring a standing 8 count in tomorrow, but the refs have to be able to cut the grass, and some can't!

 

It's easy to raise arguments for and against the 8 count. Thing is boxing rules across the world should be standardized, not *******ized.

 

Absolutely. I can understand the need for rules to be standardised, but in this case it isn't going to affect the way people fight, it will only prevent terrible stoppages we see far too often. A loss is very damaging to a fighter's future earning potential and the idea that Enzo has to live with a completely unjustified L on his record because of a mistake out of his control is a big problem.

I completely support standing 8 counts

 

Will it cure bad judgment by referees? Because thats the root of this problem.

 

If you get a standing 8 count does it mean a 10/8 round for the other fighter same as a knock down would?

 

I understand standing 8s for occasions when a fighter gets hit by a punch that would have put them down but being trapped between the opponent and the ropes they get held up. This can lead to them taking a lot of damage that they wouldnt have taken if they had been in the centre of the ring and just gone down. This is the ONLY occasion in my opinion a standing 8 should be used, when the fighter would have gone down but was held up by the ropes.

This was not the case in the enzo fight that was just poor officiating which should be fought against tooth and nail and is a rot at the heart of our sport.

 

The fact it will effect the way people fight is the biggest reason there is for standardization of the rules.