The state of heavyweight steroid testing, circa 1992

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  1. Lenny

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    Richard M... I admire your judgment. Always----but . Here is the question,,,, AAA baseball player, G League Hoops, 15th ranked HW. You are 25, Same values sir? Millions if they help. .....Maybe generational..... Sorry for my immoral testimony but i would fold
     
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  2. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You do have the right to make your own decisions. I would never fold, no matter what, to me values and dignity are more important than greed, also something that potentially harm me, no way. I have never cheated, never will. I would always do things fair and square. You area good guy, but nothing could make me fold, not even for a million bucks. This fixation with Modern Nutrition is getting old, we know that it is Steroids. But I do give you all the respect in the world, but if I was down and out, situation is severe, I would go back to work at age 62, anything illegal is not worth it, I do not even have a traffic ticket. Stay Cool, just be careful with your body, my health is not that good.
     
  3. Lenny

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    ok ---- RMM...... not similar to my childhood, But what if your raised in a different economic level. Could u could avoid the " legal" money? Steroids have that impact. Maybe not long term but the $$ in short term are hard to beat, Unfortunately

    I do appreciate your morality in these times...... Please .... Just an honest question
     
  4. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was not raised in what you call wealthy, but middle class. Both parents worked, my mother was a nurse, my father was an Aircraft Mechanic as a civilian at the local Air Force Base. I wanted to work at a young age. Steroids is still a drug, and it is not legal if they are testing athletes for it. I do not care for drugs, Marijuana, Cocaine. When I made money before I retired, it was honest hard earned money doing what I enjoyed doing, helping the Mentally Ill, many were drug users that were addicted. In fact I went back to school (college) and earned my degree in Psychology. A lesson to be learned, Crime Does Not Pay, everyone gets caught by the law. When I was young, it was different than today. I paid my way thru High School and College, no help from parents. Steroids, Natural Nutrition, that is all I hear on this site, Enough. I do not even have a parking violation, clean and square. I am now 62 years old, and proud of what I have achieved, legally. Leave Steroids alone. Don't trouble trouble unless trouble troubles you. You seem like an intelligent guy, do something better with your life.
     
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  5. Lenny

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    Again.... RM . Never taken steroids , too old now anyway. But at 20? To make money ...yes. Different days, different money. I do do not disagree with your value set. Just your perception of todays athletes . Thank you
     
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  6. cross_trainer

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    Meanwhile, on Twitter...



    (I'm curious to know what Foreman means by "well investigated.")
     
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  7. NoNeck

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    I recommened watching Robert Sapolsky on YouTube if you're interested in psychology. The guy is a great lecturer.
     
  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Considering that Ken Norton's son was 6'2, 235 and an NFL player, I'll give Norton the benefit of the doubt.
     
  9. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I do have my college degree in Psychology, thank you for the recommendation my friend.
     
  10. cross_trainer

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    That would have been back when Behaviorism was still pretty dominant as the paradigm?
     
  11. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Graduated at age 40 with my degree, I worked and went to school, no help from anybody.
     
  12. cross_trainer

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    Cool! Congrats.
     
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  13. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks my friend, Class of 1999, I was 40, I am now 62 years old.
     
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