The stoppage in Chavez-Taylor 1

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by El Cepillo, Oct 14, 2009.


  1. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I know this has certainly be discussed before, but I've only just seen the fight, and wondered what everyones take on it is?

    From my perspective, I was very impressed with Taylor as a fighter. He had it all, in spades. But....I did feel the stoppage was legit, after the KD he looked absolutely ****ed.
     
  2. fists of fury

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    Fair stoppage, if a harsh one.
     
  3. horst

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    Great fight, pure quality from Taylor (I was alarmed by how wide the gap was between him and Chavez for most of the rounds, it has affected how I view JCC as he was completely outboxed when peak or near-peak here), and the stoppage was correct. The referee cannot allow time to enter his mind, if you ask a guy if he is ok and he just stares into space he is duty-bound to wave it off.
     
  4. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I've never really bought into the myth of Chavez. But that said, I was so impressed with Taylor - he reminded me of Cruserweight Holyfield - and that's pretty much the biggest compliment you can pay a fighter.

    I agree about the stoppage as well, I don't think Taylor took his hands off the ropes at any point, he wasn't fit to continue. Very cruel considering the circumstances though.
     
  5. fists of fury

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    Myth?
     
  6. JohnThomas1

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    Damn solid for a myth :lol:
     
  7. horst

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    I wouldn't call it a myth exactly. I think he was a great fighter, but the Taylor fight is one of the reasons that I do not believe he was one of the elites of his generation in terms of ability. Guys like Whitaker and Hagler could never have been so comprehensively beaten over 11 rounds and 58 seconds in their primes.
     
  8. El Cepillo

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    The traditional legendary story of the unbeatable Julio Cesar Chavez. The man systemically out boxed on more than one occasion during his prime. The
    insatiable Mexican warrior who would go on to infrequently quit on his stool.
     
  9. fists of fury

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    I dunno Popkins...I mean Sweet Pea aside, Chavez for my money was the elite fighter of his generation. Certainly he was ranked as such by all the magazines until Pea 'beat' him.
    Taylor gave him fits for sure, but Chavez bust him up and did find a way to win.
     
  10. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Chavez was a great fighter, an elite fighter.

    But the mythology of the man makes him more than that - which is something I never bought into.
     
  11. Flea Man

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    Yep, legit stoppage. Those that think Steele was biased towards Chavez needs to watch Chavez's reaction to him after the first Randall fight.

    Steele was a fair ref, and a GOOD one. His explanation post-fight is exemplary, and Taylor's corner were at fault, telling him to go for it because the fight was close (hopefully it wasn't, I had Taylor up about 8-3 going into the last round) and for jumping up on the apron and distracting him when Steele required an answer from Meldrick.

    Good stoppage. Regardless of the time :good
     
  12. Flea Man

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    After about a hundred fights :huh
     
  13. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    You're talking about real life. Fists or Fury wanted to talk about the myth. One at a time please.
     
  14. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    good stoppage by steele ,great fight
     
  15. lolb

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    Yeah it was a shame but definitely the correct decision. Richard Steele was not concerned with the time, his job is to look after the fighters health. Taylor was ****ed and Chavez was a hurtful puncher. Another big punch and he could have been seriously hurt.