The stoppage of Jono last night

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  1. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    What are your thoughts in the cold light of day?

    Was the stoppage too early?

    I thought it was a bull**** stoppage tbh, yeah ok, I can see why the ref did it, but this is boxing, its a brutal sport and once you try and fundamentally change that by stopping a fight everytime someone might be about to get hurt, then it really ruins ruins the essence of it. Alright, it wouldn't have changed the result, but Thaxton is a warrior and he deserved more than that, IMO.
     
  2. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yeah i think it was to early ,as it was obvious it was gonna be thaxton's last fight the ref should of let it go .i am sure his corner would of not let him take to much but at least he did not get hurt.
     
  3. Hooch

    Hooch Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree, the ref must have taken into account Thaxtons' hard career when making the call which should not be the case - its up to Thaxtons' corner to make that kind of decession.

    Thought both fighters were short changed if that makes sense - Murray was robbed of a clear cut and impressive stoppage, with Thaxton robbed of a punchers chance to end it in next round or so with an on rushing Murray open to counters.

    To early a stoppage
     
  4. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    I don't think it is possible (or reasonable to expect) that a referee can officiate a fight without being influenced by their pre-fight expectations, althout they obviously try to minimise that.

    In this case, Thaxton was clearly in a fight that his previous performances didn't merit him being in, and what was likely to happen during the fight was very forseeable. It was always likely that the referee would tend towards an early stoppage once that obvious story began to unfold.
     
  5. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    Too soon. Thaxton might of been stopped later on, but it was one punch that had him a bit stunned, Murray didn't land anything when he had Thaxton on the ropes and the ref jumped in. Howard Webb robbed of what was a good fight. Duke McKenzie and John Rawling were talking **** aswell about 'Murray rocked Thaxton with every punch he landed'. He landed a lot and Thaxton took the majority extremely well.
     
  6. rooq

    rooq Rooq's Boxing Promoter Full Member

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    early stoppage, but its probably very different to being in a ring when its your duty is to protect a fighter from getting unnecessarily and possibly permanently damaged.
     
  7. MIK1000

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  8. ollyc

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    I thought it was a poor stoppage. Yes, Thaxton was being caught flush regularly, yes he had been staggered by an eye catching blow, and yes he was on the way to losing convincingly, but ...
    He wasn't caught by a single shot in the flurry that followed & he seemed to be in full control of his senses and not desperately hurt; why not allow him the remainder of the round to survive/throw a last few desperate hayemakers, and then at the end of the round Foster could've gone to his corner and told him that he would be intervening if the fight continued to be so one-sided.
    My underlying problem with the stoppage is that there was no warning, it was all to sudden - there was no way Jono could've seen it coming, no way he could've illustrated he was capable of continuing to fight as he wasn't aware that he was in danger of being stopped (by Foster that is). And if that stoppage is to be used as a template for future crossroads-type fights, the younger bookies favourite might as well have his hand raised before the opening bell.
    As for the matter of protecting Thaxton, the manner of defeat may conversely convince him to continue boxing thus prolonging an already lengthy career and exposing him to further potential punshment in an effort to regain the Lonsdale outright.
     
  9. ollyc

    ollyc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I sort of agree, but I still insist he beat Mezaache, and lost a close fight to a rugged, physical welterweight - so he probably deserved the right to contest the vacnt belt
     
  10. Geiger

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    I was surprised that the fight was ended at that point but not really too annoyed. In my opinion the fight was heading one way and I didn't need see Thaxton take more shots. Having said that, I understand the other side of the argument and knowing how much the fight meant to Jon I thought it would've continued to a decisive end.

    Regardless of what Jon does next, he's had a good career and I've enjoyed watching him fight.
     
  11. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    This is a good point and one of the first things that crossed my mind: I hope that doesn't persuade him against retiring...
     
  12. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    too early.

    he won the first, lost the 2nd and 3rd but I felt he was beginning to throw arc punches like the uppercuts and hook. those punches instead of his straights could stun murray. he wasn't winning and he didn't look like he would but it's a british title fight. you don't stop it after someone gets wobbled, covers up and takes 3 punches.

    i see why the ref did it but in terms of boxing, they were probably the wrong reasons.

    i feel sorry for jono. he would have wanted to go out on his shield.
     
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  15. Paddy

    Paddy ESB Founders Club Full Member

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    bad stoppage I feel this takes away from Murrays win he was very impressive all the same