The story of Tyson and Foreman

It was clear boxing wanted George out. They got what they wanted from him and anymore would've been a liability. Foreman was 48, though. How much longer should he have gone on?

 

He already went on too long. He was clearly in it to feed his 10 kids all named George

 

umm... foreman had problems with the swarming dwight muhammad quawi... tyson could have possibly been KO'd but based on that fight i think tyson would have beaten george

 

That was during George's SECOND life.

George of 1973/74 would have beaten Tyson, IMO.

But at no point in George's comeback would he have posed much threat to Prime Tyson, and I doubt Tyson feared him.

 

LOL, so the B/C fighters like Stewart-Saverese-Schultz did not fear him but Tyson would ? LMAO, the comebacking Foreman was all smoke and mirrors with the intent to make the most money by fighting tomatoecans and then conning the public into the thinking that he is a legitimate threat to world class fighters.........

BTW, Tyson and Foreman have two of the above fighters as common opponents, I let some of you Einsteins figure out how long it took a faded/washed up Tyson to deal with those guys and how George turned it into a life and death affair.

 

These guys aren't swarmers Tyson was, Foremen knocked out any sort of swarming fighter, except Morrison who ran all night, he fought whether it be his first career or his second.

 

I brought up this point in a previous thread because I believe a lot of people are questioning Lotierzo's word without knowing his credentials.

For those who don't know Frank Lotierzo, the autor of the piece, I found this brief piece on the web:

Frank Lotierzo has been considered by some boxing insiders to be one of the sport’s best fight analyst. His work has appeared in Fight Game, Boxing-Illustrated, and Uppercut magazine. Prior to his career as a writer, Mr. Lotierzo hosted Toe-To-Toe on ESPN Radio and trained at Joe Frazier's Gym in Philadelphia under the tutelage of the legendary George Benton. Between 1977-82, he had over 50 fights as an amateur and pro in the middleweight division.

Goto a more 'scientific' boxing website and you'll see the man has written 100+ articles their alone.

Now, given his credentials tell me,

1) Why would Lotierzo jeopardise his friendship with Benton by spouting bull****?
2) Why would he fabricate a story involving influencial respected members of the boxing world named? Duva, Goodman and Benton.
3) Why has neither Duva, Goodman or Benton ever refuted Lotierzo's claims?

 

He didnt knock out Crawford Grimsley who was a club fighting swarmer and was knocked out in 30 seconds by Jimmy Thunder. He didnt knock out Lou Savarese who stood right in front of him. He didnt knockout Alex Stewart who had been knocked out in 1 round by Tyson. He didnt knockout Briggs who had questionable stamina and chin.
See what your failing to realize is that Foremans lack of speed allowed these type of fighters to do these things to make it to the end of the fight. You want to tell me that Tyson in the early 90's was as limited, one dimensional and had as weak of a chin as some of these guys I mentioned? :-(

 

What does this have to do with Tyson? I didnt read the article but Duva and Benton were not in any way involved with Tyson. Benton I believe worked with Foreman. Why would Benton get pissed at this guy for his fighter look better?

 

Big George is one of my all time favorites, but you could tell that already
I never heard or read the Mike Tyson story though, and I think Mike would have beaten George in the early 90's.
But I also believe the story Mike was afraid of him. By the time the fight was supposed to be made, Tyson had just lost and George looked like a fracking machine blasting away on his helpless opponents (mostly walking corpses but hey) like Tyson in his prime.
With that in mind and George beïng awed upon by a young Tyson I can see him beïng afraid of him, certainly after the Cooney fight which second round you should see from all angles btw :admin

 

How can you comment on my observations on the article when you haven't read the article???:huh

 

Your right, Ill read it. Shame on me :wall

Where is it?? Cant find it

 

Here you go:

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/boxing-news/lotierzo1609.php

 

I have read that, but thats Goodmans words, who is also full of ****, and there was a lot going on with Tyson at that time, he was very close to getting rid of King and company. Steve Wynn the hotel mogul was very close to stealing Tyson away from King. Tyson only wanted his titles back and I believe he was more concerned with getting the titles than an exhibition with Foreman and King couldnt make the fight for his own greedy reasons. Wynn had signed Douglas after the Holy fight and Tyson was going to leave King and fight the winner.
Again, this is coming from one guy. You dont think Lou Duva who has the biggest mouth in all of boxing would be telling this story to anyone who would listen??

 

I believe the integrity of the authors piece, that these claims were made to him by several people, but i just dont buy into Tyson being scared to fight Foreman. Fighters at this level are not frightened of each other, especially the way Tysons being portrayed as being 'heart scared' to face Foreman. Its possible that he may, or could, have reservations about Foreman but i cant see him being frightened.

Its as plain as the nose on your face that big George was in it from the start to make money, nothing more nothing less, and fair play to him. Millions of dollars were there for him with little risk of a beating for the majoirtiy of those fights. Him calling out Tyson is no different to what thousands of boxers have done over the years, its all about the money. IMO it really is that straight forward