The "styles make fights" cliche'...

Not directed at anyone in particular, but this once legitimate idea (though cliche') has been run into the ground and watered down to the point of being flawed logic. There is no question "styles" are A factor, but absolutely not the only factor in determining the outcome of a fight.

Manny struggling with JMM, goes beyond and involves more than "styles". Conditioning of either fighter is just as important, skill level and talent obviously are important, mental make up, etc etc. Bottom line to use "styles" make fights to close the case on Manny's struggles are a cop out. There are style clashes that could be shown to be problematic, but great fighters impose their will and ultimately "style" on their opponent.

Look at JCC in the first PBF fight, not only did JCC make the fight close, but he also imposed his will and style on PBF, which should be one of the things "robbery" proponents point to (but don't typically). Floyd imposes his style on opponents, he slows the fight down, makes it tactical, forces his pace etc. It's what great fighters do regardless of the style they are facing. Manny should be able to impose his style on anyone, his inability to do so is concerning.

Lastly, if it's as simple as "styles" make fights then why would you believe it possible for PBF to lose when he's seen essentially every style possible? Manny has never had an issue luring good fighters into fire fights, he's typically not as timid, and from the start it appeared JMM had imposed his style on Manny.

Bottom line please stop with this logic, Manny's issues were larger than JMM's style...[html][/html]

 

My bad...even I **** up from time to time. Thanks for the correction. :good

 

I'm not dismissing the validity altogether, in some instances and on some levels it can be true, but rarely is it ever that simple. There are more factors at play in JMM vs PAC or JLC vs PBF than simply styles, imposing the style you want to fight is more relevant. To simply dismiss a poor performance from any fighter based strictly on "style" is an analytical mistake, IMO.

 

You're posts would suggest they know nothing. Luckily David you aren't the only white poster here.

I kid Osama, the mix of body odor, two day old hot dogs, and slurpy's gave you away.