The Subject of Heavyweight s Compared To Past Eras?

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  1. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    there is a lot of BS in boxing
    do not belief the hypes
    this my advices
    lots of rumor & ' grand ' claim & all evidences points to opposite
     
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  2. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    is almost same age as Archie v Marciano!
    without the 200 pro fight..
    not even 20!
     
    FastLeft, Aug 12, 2022
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  3. McGrain

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    Well there are examples of fighters losing five pounds a day for five days, consecutively in fight week.

    This, as you've said, is not impossible.

    What has changed, dramatically, is that fighters can do this and then performs as world-class fighters. It is not the weight-loss - it is the science of replenishing the fighter post weight-loss. Fighters can do this to themselves, then get into the ring with a notable size-advantage and no downside. This was not possible on shorter-lead weigh ins and it is not remotely something HWs did.

    Joe Frazier could unquestionably do this and unquestionably make 175 by doing it. Fighters do it to weigh in at 154, 155lbs. It's all about % of bodyweight lost. If Joe trains down throughout he's looking to shift about 15lbs by the time he gets to cut for 175lbs.

    It would be very easy. This is not controversial.
     
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  4. Fergy

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    Yes, definitely a legend then!
     
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  5. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ha.haaaa,hhhhhaaaaa....
     
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  6. Fergy

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    And Andy Ruiz Jr?
     
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  7. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    You don't think Frazier had a massive size advantage over Foster (even after Foster put on weight to meet Frazier)?
     
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  8. McGrain

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    It was about 15, 20 pounds I think?
     
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  9. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Well officially it was 19 pounds. Granted their were rumors the scales were off for Frazier's weigh in and his true weight was 204-206 but either way, it was a significant weight advantage. Frazier would just about have to kill himself to get down to LHW imo. I feel he'd be much better at cruiserweight.
     
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  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Disagree, but if you've read the thread and believe that, I have nothing further to add.
     
    McGrain, Aug 12, 2022
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  11. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I've admittedly only read the front page lol. Will go through the whole thing now.
     
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  12. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yes we had this discussion
    they do not belief Frazier is this big
     
    FastLeft, Aug 12, 2022
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  13. lufcrazy

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    Every single era we've seen a former CW step up and have success.

    Spinks, Holyfield, Haye, Usyk have all been ranked either 1 or 2 in the world.

    I'm never again writing a HW off as being too small. Even the current champ, Fury, was dropped by Cunningham.

    Never again will I write someone off based on size alone.
     
    lufcrazy, Aug 12, 2022
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  14. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, but I can judge him from photos and videos. He wasn't big.
     
    70sFan865, Aug 12, 2022
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  15. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    from what I seen
    bigger than every light heavy I ever seen
     
    FastLeft, Aug 12, 2022
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