The Super 6; Americans making a good account of themselves

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BigReg, Mar 28, 2010.


  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I doubt they were expecting easy wins. I'm sure they all knew that this would be the biggest challenge of their careers but they were just willing to put their belts and their careers on the line to make it happen. Props to them :good especially Froch and Kessler who brought their belts to the table and gave these young guns in their primes this amazing opportunity.

    its a pity that alot of the americans on this board have been completely unable to give any credit whatsoever to these guys just because they are Europeans and have a different background than guys like Dirrell, Ward, and Taylor.
     
  2. mightyd40

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    your disrespect towards americans is getting rather annoying....so let me rub it in your face a little bit to turn the tables......your guys beat one of our washed up fighters and have lost every other fight to inexperienced americans. ward dominated your savior, dirrell dominated abraham and dirrell was robbed against the joke of the tournament in carl froch who really isnt that good. why dont you go soak that in and cry a little bit ok? :good
     
  3. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Styles make fights. Castillo is not the best fighter Mayweather has fought, but he sure as hell gave him his toughest fight. Pacquiao has fought guys are better than Dirrell, but he has never fought anyone like Dirrell. Anyone can see that some of the miskates that Dirrell makes can be corrected with experience. Maybe Pac would excel against a guy like Dirrell, maybe he wouldn't. We don't know becaise he's never fought anyone like that.
     
  4. PH|LLA

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    actually, Sasakul was like that. Pac knocked him out when he was only 19. No kidding the styles are pretty similar. Sasakul was the lineal champ at 112 at the time and Pac fought him in his home town. Pac would destroy a guy like Dirrell, especially of that caliber.

    meanwhile, Dirrell has never faced anyone like Pacquiao and probably never will.

    Also, I don't wanna bring Floyd into the conversation too cause it will drag out, but Castillo was imo the best fighter Floyd ever faced, at the time he faced them.
     
  5. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have been really impressed by Ward and Dirrell.

    Before the tournament it was clear to see that skill wise and athletically, these two were probably the two best in the the tournament but their lack of top level experience i thought would be their downfall. There was also a question mark over their mental and physical toughness going into the tournament as they weren't battle tested like their European counterparts.

    However after the first round for Ward and the first two rounds for Dirrell they have answered a lot of questions and you have to give both of them a legitimate chance of winning the whole tournament.

    I only hope there is no mental or physical damage to Dirrell after the KO. We have all seen the negative effects a bad KO can have on a fighter's psyche (altering of the fighters style, namely becoming more cautious) and on his body (decrease in punch resistance). It would be a shame for a talented fighter coming of the finest win of his career to be hampered in the future by a cheap shot.
     
  6. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I gave them credit, except for Kessler, who I never saw beating Ward. I thought Froch would beat Dirrell, due to Dirrell's inexperience when they fought. I also supported abraham.
     
  7. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    This thread is about giving props to the Americans who were pretty much universally dissmissed before this tourney started. Not surprisingly, a Euro(Jack) was the first to show up and start trashing the Americans. Euros have been trashing the Americans in this tourney before and during it. The Americans on this board should be proud of their guys. No way in hell would top class, veteran Americans would be getting their asses handed to them by some inexperienced and untested Euros. Froch, Kessler, and Abraham are all good fighters who have fought hard. However, they have clearly been one upped by The Americans.
     
  8. mightyd40

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    :good
    i am
     
  9. PH|LLA

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    i won't argue back and forth. Props to the Americans :good but I don't think they've been as dominant as you do.
     
  10. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    Ward and Dirrell were 5th and 6th as favorites to win the whole thing going in. They are now close to 1st and 2nd. Those who said the words months ago of what is now actually happening were ridiculed, called names, piled on, etc. Most on ESB do not recognize talent on the way up, but seem to be experts on stating the obvious after the fact and on assessing talent through hindsight. The excuses and poor sportsmanship from the Euros, fans and fighters, is out of hand though. They refuse to give credit where credit is due. Threads like these should go without saying, but the masses of ignorant posters here leave some of us no other choice but to start them as the demand becomes overwhelming.
     
  11. horst

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    :fire I was enjoying reading the thread-starting post, as I too have been pleasantly surprised by the superb qualities shown by Ward and Dirrell so far in the Super Six, but as ever in the General Forum, a fanboy ***** is incapable of writing a lengthy post without allowing his petty and pathetic biases and dislikes to come out, when they couldn't be any less relevant.

    For someone who chastises Abraham for his "classless actions", this is a pretty horrid example of classless and childish hypocrisy.

    And FYI Reg, Dirrell was able to land cleanly on Abraham because Abraham was constantly coming forward, being aggressive, and throwing punches, thus creating opportunities for Dirrell. Clottey was doing the opposite for much of his fight with Pacquiao, therefore leaving far less openings. Have you actually seen both of these fights? I doubt it, because the difference between the two is clear as day. Abraham badly wanted to win the fight, Clottey badly wanted to make the final bell and not get hit. If you can't see that, you must be a major '****.
     
  12. PH|LLA

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    no. Dirrell and Taylor were 5th and 6th.
     
  13. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I can't help it if some people are oversensitive about their fighters. I made a valid comparison and never put down Pacquiao. Even when Abraham was stationary and not throwing, Dirrell was able to get throught his guard. His up and down work, looping hooks, and straight shots were very effective. Manny is a great fighter, comparing Dirrell's performance to Manny's is a way to give Dirrell props not put down Pacquiao. You seem to take offense to alot of things and are quick to resortiong childesh antics you get your point across. I'm not at all surprised by your response.
     
  14. David Fanning

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    Not the odds I saw. Too many people thought Taylor still had something. The numerous polls and inaccurate threads about six months ago will reflect this. The betting public is full of lamen.
     
  15. horst

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    You're such a spineless snivelling shitbag Reg. All you ever do on this forum is deny responsibility for your thinly-veiled digs at certain fighters. I hope one day on here you are man enough to just own your opinions and stop the exhausted old "who me" ****, this is an internet forum after all so I really don't see the need for this constant cowardice from you, why don't you just man up and say what you really think???