The Super Fight

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  1. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Computer simulated fights...

    What were the results of the other fights that were simulated.

    As the Ali and Rocky fight was only one of the matches simulated.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XKcGRREcaM[/ame]
     
  2. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Round 1:
    Jack Dempsey KO7 Jim Corbett
    John L. Sullivan W15 Jim Braddock
    Joe Louis KO15 Jess Willard
    Bob Fitzsimmons W15 Jack Sharkey
    Max Baer W15 Jack Johnson
    Rocky Marciano W15 Gene Tunney
    Jim Jeffries KO10 Jersey Joe Walcott
    Muhammad Ali W15 Max Schmeling

    Quarter Finals:
    Jack Dempsey KO7 John L. Sullivan
    Joe Louis TKO10 Bob Fitzsimmons
    Rocky Marciano TKO13 Max Baer
    Jim Jeffries W15 Muhammad Ali

    Semi Finals:
    Jack Dempsey W15 Joe Louis
    Rocky Marciano TKO14 Jim Jeffries

    Final: Rocky Marciano KO13 Jack Dempsey

    Challenge: Rocky Marciano KO13 Muhammad Ali
     
  3. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks...
     
  4. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I remember listening to all those fights on the radio in college....then going and seeing the Theater Rock-Ali fight.
     
  5. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Interestingly, Gene Tunney came closer than anyone to beating the Rock. What were the scores in the the Tunney Marciano fight?

    Based on computer fights, the atg top 10 would ahve been something like:

    1. Marciano
    2. Tunney (only person to take Marciano the distance and has 2 real victories over the runner up)
    3. Dempsey
    4. Jeffries
    5 Louis
    6. Sullivan
    7 Baer
    8. Fitzsimmons
    9. Ali
     
  6. bleed_oil

    bleed_oil Active Member Full Member

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    LOL You guys are hilarious... you realize they were using some dinky old computer to "simulate" what would happen.
    You would get a more accurate simulation by sticking on computer generated fights in EA Sports Fight Night 2003... seriously the computer power is 10XXX times larger now.
     
  7. hhascup

    hhascup Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The computer had Rocky knocking out Ali in the 13th round.

    Here's all you need to know about computer fights. In September of 1970, they used the same computer that produced the Marciano-Ali fight to pick the winner of the Joe Frazier vs. Bob Foster heavyweight title fight in November of 1970. The computer picked Foster to stop Frazier in the sixth round. Since Frazier knocked Foster out in the second round, the computer could not have been more wrong. In fact, Frazier hit Foster so hard that he injured his ankle while he was going down.
     
  8. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They also did a middleweight tournament, didnt they?
     
  9. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, small computers that is why the simulation was not accurate, it would be much more accurate now that computer power has increased.:patsch
     
  10. hhascup

    hhascup Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, Robinson won

    He beat Dempsey TKO-11
    Fitzsimmons TKO-3
    Walker W-15
    Ketchel W-15
     
  11. hhascup

    hhascup Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There actually doing that with films of both boxers boxing each other. Tommy Gallagher of the contender is one of those who are working on this and he also wants me to help out as a boxing historian.

    I saw a short film of one of the bouts (just the beginning). They already asked me about several bouts BUT I can not say anything else. Hopefully they can get it going soon.
     
  12. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wow, Some controversial wins there.
     
  13. hhascup

    hhascup Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't know if that was right, I will check it out.

    Here's what I came up with:

    Here's all the bouts, just click on the link if you want to read about each bout.

    http://www.trivia-library.com/a/boxing-simulation-all-time-middleweight-champion-part-1-history.htm

    Sugar Ray Robinson W TKO 11 Jack Dempsey
    Stanley Ketchel W TKO 7 Gene Fullmer
    Mickey Walker KO-9 Dick Tiger
    Harry Greb W TKO 14 Tony Zale
    Bob Fitzsimmons W-15 Jake LaMotta
    Marcel Cerdan KO 4 Carmen Basilio
    Rocky Graziano W KO 11 Tiger Flowers
    Emile Griffith W 15 Kid McCoy

    Sugar Ray Robinson W TKO 3 Bob Fitzsimmons
    Stanley Ketchel W KO 11 Rocky Graziano
    Mickey Walker W 15 Harry Greb
    Marcel Cerdan W TKO 10 Emile Griffith

    Sugar Ray Robinson W 15 Mickey Walker
    Stanley Ketchel W KO 12 Marcel Cerdan

    Sugar Ray Robinson W 15 Stanley Ketchel
     
  14. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its been a long time from ive read this so forgive me if not 100% accurate. I think it was in 'The Greatest' by richard durham the topic of the computer fight comes up, and if memory serves me right, its claimed there were several endings to satisfy the different markets. i.e. Marciano by KO for the italian market, Ali by stoppage for the African market etc. As i said before,my minds very hazy on this but i DID read this somewhere. Maybe its BS as i havent heard anyone on here mention it and there are many wiser men than me here
     
  15. bleed_oil

    bleed_oil Active Member Full Member

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    Not "small" computer... a 60-70's era computer that likely has the processing power of a modern day calculator... not to mention there programming techniques were incredibly rudimentary...