The Super middleweight division is looking at its weakest in years

Robin Reid and Mads Larsen were absolutely robbed and on the basis of those 2 alone you can't put Ottke up their. The others i mentioned can certainly feel aggreived for not getting the decision. I mentioned Mundine on the basis that you gave mention to Ottke's amateur career without it having any relevance to what went on in his pro career. And was Mundine really a 2 time world champ? Sure the records will say so but he never actually defeated the champion in the ring, and you know that too im sure. A lot of these guys records are as flawed as the current 168lb boxers on closer inspection.

 

Mundine defeated Echols for a title that Ottke vacated when he retired,so again he didnt beat the champion in the ring. If you think so,fine thats your opinion. Mundine had already been beaten by Ottke and defeated by Siaca who Kessler knocked out,so why are you considering Mundine a good name on Kessler's record at that stage ? The other names on Kessler's record that yoy mention i wouldn't consider great.

 

Green was weight drained even when he fought on at SMW for over a year after he lost to Beyer. He stayed put because of the Mundine fight, huge earner for both.

 

Being beaten doesn't make you any worse as a fighter you ****in' idiot of gigantic proportions..:rofl:rofl:rofl Andrade wasn't better when he was undefeated you dumb **** atsch

Sorry Mr. Minion but the quality of fighters in the top 10 of 2010 thoroughly outclasses the quality of the guys in the top 10 of 2005, besides Kessler & Calzaghe. :deal

You must suffer from the same vision problems Kessler has.

Trying to make people believe Calzaghe's era is something special....priceless !

 

Ok, so in your opinion are Robert Stieglitz and Dmitri Sartison are as legitimate world champions as Mundine and therefore deserving of their current ranking?

 

Great point i think. Bailey you seem to think having paper titles holds huge relevence as you felt the need to put in brackets after each name. I suppose Erdei was the greatest LHW of all time.

 

That would be like trying to convince you that "Jessica Alba's" a hot woman but you'd keep on arguing back saying that "Susan Boyle's" much better looking...you ****in' twit !!!