The Super middleweight division is looking very weak

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    No hater of Ward at all, though when all of the S6 were on the road and he hid at home, that doesnt make fans.
    If Ward fights Bute he will get credit win or lose
     
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  2. blacktopbully

    blacktopbully Boxing Addict banned

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    he got home advantage in the contract signings dummy

    and you got nerve to talk about hiding at home your boy friend hid at home for years till he had to leave to get enough money to support his habit
     
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  3. Vergilius

    Vergilius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There are plenty of quality fighters in the division. Looks pretty strong to me. It's not super stacked, but better than HW, Cruiser, MW, jr. mid. etc. Welter and jr. Welter may be better and LHW perhaps could compete with it, but all in all SMW is one of the stronger divisions in the game.
     
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  4. Vergilius

    Vergilius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Froch's beaten som really good fighters: Direll, Abraham, Pascal, Taylor and Johnson + he was competitive with Kessler. That's not a resume to sneeze at.
     
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  5. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why have I got a nerve?
    All of the original S6 travelled, Ward didnt. I know it was in his contract, it was something his team wanted, Ward could have debated that, but didnt. So as said, that doesnt make fans.
    I dont have a boyfriend. Stop fishing for a partner ***. You have embarrassed yourself enough already.

    Now please tell me what numbers 6-10 have done to be top 10 rated. I havent really disputed the top 5. So please answer what have 6-10 done?
     
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  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Tell me what have 6-10 done to be top 10?
     
    bailey, Jan 15, 2012
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  7. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Im not sneezing at Frochs resume but look at it closely
    Dirrell has done little at SMW, his biggest win going in was Oganov
    Abraham was coming off a loss and done nothing at SMW
    Pascal had done nothing at SMW
    Taylor was 1-2 in his last 3 fights at the time and done nothing at SMW
    Johnson :patsch, has a terrible SMW resume and done nothing at SMW, that says it all. Johnson has lost more fights than won at SMW and his biggest win at SMW is A Green coming off a loss
     
    bailey, Jan 15, 2012
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  8. iceman71

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    once again....your love for the truly average euro super middleweights is laughable... an example is marcus beyer...his claim to fame is you mention his name more than anyone else on this planet

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  9. Samurai's Slice

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    lol, What are u talking about its the best Division today.
     
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  10. Vergilius

    Vergilius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    From 6-10 I'd say Johnson and Abraham are both solid fighters with good wins during their career. Add the Direll brothers to the mix and that means there are plenty of good fighters and matchups - It's impossible to have a top 10 with every fighter having beat "elite opponents" - there can only ever be 2-3 truly elite opponents at any one time beacuse they have to beat each other to be considsered elite. I'd say there are about 8 good fighters at smw right now (Ward, Bute, Froch, Kessler, Direll x2, Stieglitz, Johnson) and some prospects (DeGale, Groves) and solid ones (rest of top 10 + Andrade, Taylor) to boot - that's a fine division; plenty on name fighters, plenty of interesting matchups.
     
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  11. Vergilius

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    It's not always a question of beating fighters with great resumés: Direll has great (potential) ability, Taylor was the champ at MW, Pascal grabbed a title at LHW and Johnson is a widely respected veteran - they are all good wins. Doesn't make Froch elite, but it does make him top tier.
     
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  12. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    The top 5 are world class and good. After that the division is good but domestic level compared to previous eras. The SMW division is my favourite but what have the numbers 6-10 done to be in the top 10. Many of them wouldnt be there a few years ago
     
    bailey, Jan 15, 2012
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  13. horst

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    Yeah, it's definitely not as strong as it was in Calzaghe's day eh:

    2001

    Title Vacant
    1. Sven Ottke
    2. Joe Calzaghe
    3. Bruno Girard
    4. Charles Brewer
    5. Thomas Tate
    6. Dave Hilton Jr.
    7. Dingaan Thobela
    8. Glenn Catley
    9. Byron Mitchell
    10. James Butler

    :rofl
     
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  14. pirao666

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    Yes, it's a weak division. Of course, americans will hype it up because they finally have a world champion there, clear agenda.
     
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  15. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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