The super six toruney will go down in flames

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  1. Sp_Immortal

    Sp_Immortal Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ...on Oct 17, over before it had barely begun.

    JT will box the ears off a significantly smaller Abraham, only to be cheated of the decision by the judges. The rest of the fighters in the tourney will be reluctant to go forward knowing the fix is in.

    Sauerland is co-promoting this event along with Showtime. The whole thing has been constructed in order to maximize the chances that their cash cow, Abraham, will win the tourney. Kessler is sort of their backup insurance policy. Sauerland are the guys that brought the world Sven Ottke, the most farcical champion in the history of farcical champions.

    Abrahams the most popular fighter for Sauerland and they think they've set up an easy opening matchup for him. They think taylor is shot, and even if he's not, they think they can rig the results like they so often do. If a really suspect decision comes through or if things go badly for the Sauerland fighters, expect the super six to be off.

    It just seems foolish to me that boxing fans are putting their faith in Sauerland to put on an exciting and impartial boxing tournament. They are helping to set up a tourney where they have a vested monetary interest in some but not all the fighters. That's a recipe for disaster.

    I hope I'm wrong but I've got this bad feeling that I'm not.
     
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  2. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    WTF are you talking about? Sauerland are one of five promoters involved in this.
     
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  3. dbouziane

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    no, we are putting our faith in the fact that they want to make as much money as humanly possible off this thing and if there is some sort of bank hiest robbery in the very first fight, then no one will watch the rest of it and they are all ****ed.

    be cynical about sauerland all you want. but he stands to make more money if the tourney goes smoothly and aa loses than for it to be a questionable decision in the very first fight in favor of his "cash cow."
     
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  4. Ramón

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    Sauerland are promoting Abraham and Kessler and will soon be promoting Froch too. The tournament was their idea.
     
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  5. Sp_Immortal

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    No, they're helping to set up the tourney from what I understand. Showtime doesn't have the muscle to do it alone.

    It was in all the articles when the super six was first announced.
     
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  6. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Link?

    Link?
     
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  7. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Who is promoting Froch v Dirrell? Who is promoting Kessler v Ward?
     
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  9. Sp_Immortal

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    This did cross my mind, but I'm not sure if it all fits together. Do they really stand to make more money with this tournament versus letting Abraham fight second tier guys in front of 50,000 fans for the next half dozen years of his career?

    Obviously the best Result for Sauderland is for Abraham and Kessler to go as far as possible in the tourney. Can we trust them enough not to cheat in order to achieve that extremely lucrative result? I don't know but the reason I think boxing tournaments have always fallen through in the past is because of conflict of interest situations like this.
     
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  10. Ramón

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    Kalle Sauerland took Kessler away from Palle. Froch needs a good promoter. Sauerland has a very high opinion of Froch. Abraham is fighting Froch in the tournament. Froch might already be a Sauerland man by then. If not by then, then especially if he beats Abraham, Sauerland will be hot on signing him.

    Sauerland managed to get two of his fighters into the tournament, one of whom has never even fought at 168 lbs previously. He and Di Bella set the tournament up.
     
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  12. UndisputedUK

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    Taylor is no good at 168lbs, Abraham is going to be stronger and punching harder at 168lbs. Abraham wins this clearly, decent chance inside the distance, or on a German decision.
     
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  13. Sp_Immortal

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    Sauerland in conjunction with Showtime. Sauerland's kid is the one who wrote up the overaching rules of the super six, if I remember correctly, the points system and all.
     
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  14. Ramón

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    Yeah, Showtime wanted to do something big with Ward and Dirrell, without risking them against bad risk/rewards like Bika, for example. The promoters who made a tournament to suit themselves were Di Bella and Sauerland. Showtime pushed Ward and Dirrell and Di Bella and Sauerland pushed Taylor and Abraham (and Kessler). Froch had to be in it being so hot right now, particularly with Taylor in it.
     
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  15. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    You don't seem to have any idea what you're talking about. Showtime is a tv company, not a promoter. Sauerland are co-promoting Ward v Kessler along with the lead promoter Dan Goossen iirc. Sauerland don't have anything to do with the promotion of Froch v Dirrell.
     
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