The super six toruney will go down in flames

Well you are the one POINTING OUT CLEARLY in your initial "post" how Sauerland is going to cheat the others and this tournament is made for AA to be on top at the end? I asked you if AA clearly wins, and by AA clearly wining he has to KTFO every fighter he faces, can't get clearer then that, no? Would you realize that this tournament was in fact legitimate and AA's wins were also legitimate?

 

As far as bad decisions go, at least somebody came up with the idea for an extra point for scoring a KO. That tells me that they'd prefer not to have decisions, but KO's. No corruption there.

 

Actually I never thought of that David and it makes MUCH SENSE mate:good

 

There is no conspiracy and there will be no pre-planned robberies. It's simply that two powerful promoters (Di Bella and Sauerland) have found it in their interest to have a fight between Taylor and Abraham and that Showtime, whom they are close to, are pushing hard to promote Ward and Dirrell in big, high-reward fights. These three interest-groups have got together and made this tournament happen, for their own benefit.

This is why it makes sense for things to be set up as they are and not as they could be, with one-off matches:

1. Taylor - there's no one else for him to fight without fighting high-risk/low-reward guys like Bika, Green etc. One more loss and he's done. However, the way things are set up, he can lose two in a row next and still get a big fight in his third. Great thinking by Di Bella. Beating Abraham puts him back in the saddle.

2. Ward and Dirrell - they were going to get a shot at Kessler/Froch in their next fight anyway, but if they lost, then what? They have not proved themselves against decent competition and a loss at this stage would put their careers back considerably. Showtime has invested a lot in them and the way things are set up, they can lose two in a row and still get a good third fight afterwards. Great risk-reward compared to the alternatives.

3. Abraham - wants to fight at 168 because he can't get Pavlik to fight him at 160 but he wants big fights. He doesn't want to prove himself against (dangerous) contenders for little reward first. Beating Taylor makes his name in the US instantaneously. After Taylor, he's due to fight another American. He has a good chance to beat both and get into the final. Great thinking by Sauerland.

4. Kessler is just happy to get a fight against decent competition/competition that is rated in America and that Americans care about. A dream come true to have so many good fights lined up after struggling for the last couple of years to get any decent fights.

5. Froch - good opportunity to cash in while he's still hot. Good chance of fighting a unification fight against Kessler next year AND in a fight that the Americans WILL care about, rather than ignore it. If he loses that fight, he fights Abraham - a good opponent and an exciting clash of styles. Very good draw for him.

So, everyone is happy, including Showtime, of course, who are making a killing. By putting all these fights, most of which would have happened anyway, under one banner, they're getting great returns.

If Taylor had beaten Froch, the tournament would have been different:

Taylor v. Dirrell
Kessler v. Ward
Abraham v. Green
Bute v. Andrade II

...and possibly Bika v. Froch thrown in as well.

 

Okay, so how about opening a thread for every other promoter just to be unbiased, because for Chrissakes, look at those names! ... but please don't do that, my whole point is, instead of pointing fingers to a single or a bunch of promoters, how about pointing to hometown judging being common, now that's a problem whether it's promoter A, B or C, and the Super6 is pretty solid of controversial figures. I'd agree and say: I surely hope too that hometown decisions won't ruin Super6. And I do hope. So for the sake of that argument, I hope the judges won't screw Jermain Taylor no matter if he was protected before. And the same goes for the others. Everybody should be judged based upon his performances.

 

Excellent breakdown.

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

Taylor's whole fraudulent career is based on getting gift decisions over Hopkins and Wright. If anything, if he lasts to the final bell, he's likely to get another one. But he won't. Abraham is gonna starch this overrated phony.

 

It is an excellent breakdown. However, it doesn't take too much imagination to have an alternative tournament with the likes of:-

Lucian Bute.
Robert Stieglitz.
Sakio Bika.
Allan Green.
Felix Sturm.
Librado Andrade
Winky Wright.
Edison Miranda.

The division could be quite deep even outside of the Super 6.

You would have Bute, arguably the best Super middleweight.
Stieglitz the new WBO champ.

Dangerous Bika and Miranda.

Former lower division champs in Wright and Sturm.

And other good fighters in Allan Green and Andrade.

The winner of this tournament could fight the winner of the super six, possibly for the Undisputed title.

We should (fingers crossed) have a Ring champion when Froch and Kessler meet. (if both win beforehand)

 

Don't forget about his gift decision over Spinks.

 

I'm pretty sure from my reading that the idea came from Kalle Saurland and they presented it to Showtime. Now, who had what influence after that I'd have no idea. I have made some guesses in other threads base on what I have read.

 

Still ain't gonna read it. :bart

 

Nope. I read that too. Jan(DK) echoed that it was Saurland's idea and not Showtimes.

 

It doesn't really matter whose 'idea' it was, that doesn't make it a conspiracy.

 

Conspiracy was BigBones term, not mine.