The Tarver who turned up against Woods V Calzaghe, who wins?

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  1. ghostlybadge

    ghostlybadge Punch Drunk Full Member

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  2. TFFP

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    Tarver wasn't that impressive against Woods, Clinton was just a whole different level of **** that night

    He was still very inactive and clearly lacking in stamina, or at least confidence in it. He'd be completely overwhelmed, especially in mid to close range, he's a poor inside fighter and I believe Joe would sort him out with those inside flurries. He relied almost exclusively on the straight left against Woods, that **** isn't going to fly against an elite fellow southpaw
     
  3. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It doesn't matter who Calzaghe fights, the haters will still come up with some excuse: too old, too young, unproven, bum.

    The guy is in a no-win situation.
     
  4. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thats unfair. You can say that about any fight, oh the opponent didn't turn up. Tarver schooled Woods that night... Woods didn't turn up because he simply wasn't allowed to...
     
  5. See Me Flow

    See Me Flow The Pharaoh of Boxing Full Member

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    Tarver.
     
  6. TFFP

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    Tarver's own performance is a seperate issue. I wasn't impressed with his inactivity and laziness. Also one dimensional, there wasn't very much punch variety, he's a one trick poney with a reasonable defence if he's allowed to get comfortable

    Woods couldn't adapt, it would be naive to think you are going to compete with Joe Calzaghe, by sitting on the ropes and firing the occasional straight left.
     
  7. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To be fair, a lot of that is Joes own doing for previously Sitting lazily on a belt for so long, and never chasing a big fight or getting a real big fight.

    After finally, moving up, and fighting 3 fights of note Lacy/Kessler/Popkins; Joe admits he is in it for the money now before he retires, he has openly has stated such.

    There were a lot of fights out there, for a guy of Joes calibre, that the public would have loved to have seen, but are gone forever now...
     
  8. ThePlugInBabies

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    what, so you can use those excuses when he wins?

    lets face it, the fans in the past three years have called for lacy, lacy got whooped, excuses.

    they called for kessler, kessler got outclassed, excuses.

    they then called for driving miss daisy, joe wins a close fight, excuses.

    some of you ****ers will simply never be happy and never give the man his dues.
     
  9. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And those three fights took place when Joe was past his prime (as was hopkins as well).

    I'm running a thread on the Brit forum regarding Joe's legacy. Your input would be welcome, because I know that you know your ****. Feel free to add your analysis there as well.

    EDIT: oh wait! You already did. Thanks for your input.
     
  10. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Some even criticise him for not facing Johnson....I seem to remember back in 2004 when JC was supposed to go up to LHW to face that very man he was accused of 'fleeing' the SMW division just as it was heating up with the two young up and coming warriors Kessler and Lacy!

    The guy just can't win. He should fight Pavlik. Having the distinction of beating the best at 160, 168 and 175 (no Dawson isn't it overanalysts) would really be something imo.
     
  11. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If he wins. I didn't have any excuses for Lacy, Kessler, or Hopkins. Those were all great wins. I just want to see good fights.
     
  12. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's not necessarily true as knowledgeable boxing fans will give him his due and haters will come up with excuses no matter what. Hopkins was old no doubt but still capable when he fought Calzaghe and Calzaghe gets credit from me for the win. Calzaghe's performance however wasn't impressive even to Joe's hardcore fans. Young challengers to Calzaghe such as Dawson and Pavlik are proven to a degree and depending on Joe's performance against them he would get his credit for beating them.
     
  13. Serpent Saint

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    Excuse me? Can you provide a source to back up your ridiculous claim?

    Or are you just lying?
     
  14. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yea really "ridiculous claim"


    "Although the talk is of a fight with Woods or fights next year, I can't take my eyes off the ball," Calzaghe said


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7104177.stm
     
  15. Bodysnatcher

    Bodysnatcher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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