The Term "Tomato Can"...

Ah, I see. ****, up again he goes.

 

Depends where you rank the Tijuana variety, as opposed to, say, the Philly type? I'd say a Philly Cab Driver is almost as good as Frankie De Paula- a typical 'coffee & donuts' fighter.

 

Cab driver > tomato can.

Cab drivers are roughly on par with club fighters, maybe a little below.

Part-time pro boxers, essentially. Even if they had talent to begin with, their financial situation and need to remain employed never allowed them adequate time in the gym to refine it enough to find lasting success. Typically looking at a .500 record or so (give or take a few W's or L's), with the wins against tomato cans and the losses to prospects/gatekeepers.

 

Called somebody who was trying to start **** in a shared cab a tomato can once. Don't think they got it.

 

1. Great (top fifty all-time)
2. Hall of Famer (top hundred and twenty all-time)
3. Titlist (Hall of Fame potential)
4. Challenger (title fight worthy)
5. Gate keeper (fringe contender)
6. Prospect (unproven talent)
7. Journeyman (cab driver)
8. Stiff (<.50 turkey)
9. Tomato can (no he can't)
10. Crumble (Eric & equivalents)

:think

 

They might've if you KTTFO first. :thumbsup

 

I'll co-sign this.

 

Elaborated a bit - still co-sign?

 

Aye, the parenthetical blurbs all jive. (#9 is )

 

Couldn't resist

 

Nice list Manassa. I'd add Trialhorse too- he's better than the journeyman; he's old now but still crafty and seldom gets hit too cleanly (and once decked Harold 'The Shadow' Knight in sparring). He's a good test for #6.

 

I'd squeeze a "chump" between "stiff" and "journeyman" I think.

The sort of Darryl Pinckney/Ross Puritty type with a poor record but some ability and a couple of impressive scalps on their resume.

 

Hmm, yes, we are going to have to extend this list and add some examples.

 

I loved that episode of Arli$$ where the boxer has to get past a successful defense against French challenger Tomate de Cannes to get the big-money shot against Oscar De La Hoya.