The terrible problem with modern MMA.

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by james4210, May 18, 2010.


  1. james4210

    james4210 Active Member Full Member

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    I often feel frustrated and dissatisfied with MMA fights. because the fights often end very quickly and the outcome seems to depend a lot on luck.

    Machida Vs Shogun fight the two commentators set out of 30 title rematchs 14 had gone one way and 14 had gone the other and the remaining two were drawn. for me that is a very startling statistic, that illustrates in my view what a coin toss it is who wins.

    I know realism is prized over everything, but I think we the fans are being let down. imagine this scenario, there was a massively anticipated boxing match but the rules were the fighter who landed the first 10 punches won
    the fight. Or a tennis match where whoever won the first point won the match.

    The above would just be crazy and totally dissatisfying, that's exactly how I feel about many fights, including the Machida vs Shogun 2. everyone's like all hail the conquering king. but basically it was just a lucky punch. I've seen this happen time and time again.

    Can anything be done about this situation, because its pissing me off.
     
  2. JohnJohn

    JohnJohn Active Member Full Member

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    I don't see a problem with this as it brings a level of unpredictability to the fight.
     
  3. james4210

    james4210 Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah you are right it does have its positives.
     
  4. Koa

    Koa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This isn't indicative of MMA as a whole though, only in that weight division. It shows you how competitive the division is though considering that there have been fighters who dominate.

    vs. another sport, where champions can hold belts for ages without fighting anyone of note.
     
  5. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Luck? Well, damn. Those guys that keep winning and winning are some seriously lucky ****ers. Powerball should be in their near future.

    Beyond closing your eyes and flailing your arms wildly there's no such thing as luck in MMA.
     
  6. Kestrel

    Kestrel Windhover Full Member

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    Luck might get you a few wins but skill is what will take you to the top and keep you there. There is no problem here, it's part of the whole realistic fight game.
     
  7. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It wasn't a lucky punch.

    But even if you think it was...You're forced to admit. (unless you're lying to your own self , or wearing special machida glasses)...That Shogun was dominating him anyway.

    Not only was he the aggressor , but he landed several strikes before the "lucky" ko...As a matter of fact , the elusive machida , was bleeding (from his nose)...It simply wasn't his night.

    And i'd also add that Shogun won the first fight too. No need to listen to Rogan's bull**** comments..to influence your judgement.
     
  8. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    I believe it was Ralph Gracie who once said that "the more I train the luckier I get."

    Quick fights are the name of the game. Sometimes a guy just gets caught. That was not a lucky punch by any means. Lyoto Machida used that lunging left straight punch time and again against everyone he's fought. Shogun obviously trained to slip the punch and counter with the right hook and it worked perfectly.

    If you want to see a back and forth technical battle - then just rewatch the first fight between the two. There is enough happening in that fight to see something new every time you watch it.
     
  9. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    That what happens in a real fight. Also, fighters make their own luck. It's a blast watching fights because you don't always know the outcome before you see the fights. There isn't really any fun in that. However, certain fighters have been able to maintain dominance... so it isn't about luck. If you throw a punch, and it knocks your opponent out... that isn't luck. You weren't trying to tickle him.
     
  10. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it." - Thomas Jefferson
     
  11. I'm not sure a close match is exclusive just to MMA but the variables are a lot more volatile than boxing hey, I think it's because MMA is all something new but these are the fights future champs will be learning from.
     
  12. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    I disagree. I like how explosive it can be. If someone is not 100% sharp and focused then that is their fault. If you look deeper, you'll see that it is not luck.

    Same **** happens in boxing. I love it when someone gets demolished but all my mainstream fans mates seem to say they would like it to go a few rounds.

    As long as a fighter comes to fight then I don't care how it ends as long as they both come to fight.
     
  13. james4210

    james4210 Active Member Full Member

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    that is normally the case in most other sports, but how do you explain those rematch statistics, they stand out by a mile
     
  14. james4210

    james4210 Active Member Full Member

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    I am a Machida fan, just because I love anyone who fights a little different, and holds a candle for karate. I respect your assessment, an honest to God had them absolutely equalup until knock down. I'm just greedy I was craving another long fight.
     
  15. james4210

    james4210 Active Member Full Member

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    I think the pendulum has swung too far the other way and The top fighters are going to drift away from the sport. and pretty soon Dana White will be driving round seedy bars looking for dum smos willing to bash each other's faces in, at the UFC